Matt Hancock

[ellal]

Yes, anybody who dies, of any cause, would eventually have died, sooner or later.

The "excess deaths" figures are the best way to see how many were killed by the pandemic

So why the current excess death figures when the 'virus' is not the cause?

Could it possibly be the fact that the health service which is gradually being privatised was forced to concentrate on the 'virus?

A 'virus' which may not have been so deadly as people were told to believe

And now people are dropping dead because tens of billions have been syphoned off to big pharma and corrupt phony 'virus protection' contracts instead of dealing with treatable illnesses/diseases!

Follow the money to find the truth

 

[Notch7]

A 'virus' which may not have been so deadly as people were told to believe

Tell that to the people who lost loved ones

tell that to the people left with life changing chronic conditions due to long covid.

And now people are dropping dead because tens of billions have been syphoned off to big pharma and corrupt phony 'virus protection' contracts instead of dealing with treatable illnesses/diseases

Please show me where NHS budgets were cut to pay for vaccines or PPE

 

[Justin Passing]

So why the current excess death figures when the 'virus' is not the cause?

Could it possibly be the fact that the health service which is gradually being privatised was forced to concentrate on the 'virus?

A 'virus' which may not have been so deadly as people were told to believe

And now people are dropping dead because tens of billions have been syphoned off to big pharma and corrupt phony 'virus protection' contracts instead of dealing with treatable illnesses/diseases!

Follow the money to find the truth

Idiot.

 

[Justin Passing]

Au contraire...

I've learnt a lot about the science, as reports are slowly coming out that differ somewhat from what you swallowed without question...

You were happy to be jabbed when the safety first medical advice seems to have been ignored...

And the deadliness of the 'virus' was 'sexed up' in order to 'scare the pants off' the general public!

I wonder if amongst this slow release of damning WhatsApp messages there will be some regarding emphasising 'death because of covid' as opposed to 'death with covid' in order to keep up the fear factor?

You've learned science? That's a laugh, you fall flat on your face with anything a tiny bit complicated.
Your last "point" has been done to death, and settled.
YOU might swallow or spit out things without question, but don't assume everyone else is an idiot.
The Telegraph article has errors, the quoting of Whitty has errors. Use your new found education to find where.
He did not "sex up the deadliness of the virus" as you suggest. You're a worse lying little **** than Hancock.

 

[ellal]

Oh dear...

The cult of the 'virus' seems to have created an inability to question authority amongst it's victims...

Is that a consequence of 'long covid' (an undefined 'ailment'), or simply 'having the pants scared off them'?

As to whether NHS budgets were cut, then...

"The Department’s spending in 2020/21 and 2021/22 included funding to respond to the Covid-19 pandemic. This Covid-19 spending means the Department’s budget grew rapidly between 2019/20 and 2021/22 before falling in 2022/23"

Funding that hasn't helped out those I mentioned...

Hence the rising excess death figures from treatable diseases/illnesses.
(it's called a backlog by the way )

But you also fell for the red bus 'promise' didn't you notchy, so your credibility is zilch when it comes to the NHS budget!

 

[noseall]

Oh dear...

The cult of the 'virus' seems to have created an inability to question authority amongst it's victims...

Because they are dead, dummy.

 

[Notch7]

Is that a consequence of 'long covid' (an undefined 'ailment'), or simply 'having the pants scared off them'

it’s not an undefined ailment, covid virus can result in many serious long term effects

 

[ellal]

it’s not an undefined ailment, covid virus can result in many serious long term effects

Of course it's undefined...

The list of 'symptoms' just about covers every common ailment known to humankind!

Because people who believe that the 'virus' is responsible for the sky falling in will attribute anything/everything to it...

One has to admit that it was a 'mind job' worthy of the brexit campaign...

Oh, but you fell for that as well didn't you

 

[Justin Passing]

Go away, idiot.

 

[Brigadier]

it’s not an undefined ailment, covid virus can result in many serious long term effects

How do you know this to be true?

 

[Brigadier]

it’s not an undefined ailment, covid virus can result in many serious long term effects

The list of 'symptoms' just about covers every common ailment known to humankind!

Not often I support @ellal, but I do hear.

Covid-19 has been attributed with every symptom from

No symptoms, through to

Brown bread

Dry coughs
Productive coughs
Sore throats
Headaches
Fatigue
Aches and pains
The shoites

The list goes on and on.

 

[Justin Passing]

Not often I support @ellal, but I do hear.

Covid-19 has been attributed with every symptom from

No symptoms, through to

Brown bread

Dry coughs
Productive coughs
Sore throats
Headaches
Fatigue
Aches and pains
The shoites

The list goes on and on.

It's a coronavirus, like many others - the symptoms are similar as one woud expect.
There's nothing undefined about it.
AIDS is much harder to define. Is the pathetic forum jerk going to make assinine posts about that as well?

 

[noseall]

Not often I support @ellal, but I do hear.

Covid-19 has been attributed with every symptom from

No symptoms, through to

Brown bread

Dry coughs
Productive coughs
Sore throats
Headaches
Fatigue
Aches and pains
The shoites

The list goes on and on.

What symptoms would you prefer to see regarding a respiratory illness?

 

[Brigadier]

What symptoms would you prefer to see regarding a respiratory illness?

It's not about that:it is the catch-all approach (let's not forget, for a novel virus).

On one hand, "follow the science'" in the other, "chuck it (another symptom) into the pot, can't hurt to".

That, and imho the list of symptoms became so encompassing as to be pointless.

 

[noseall]

That, and imho the list of symptoms became so encompassing as to be pointless.

In some instances, yes. But symptoms are only a guide for those wanting to establish the quickest way forward for treatment or testing. No point treating for a respiratory illness if your foot hurts. Besides, what's the downside? Testing for Covid is relatively straightforward, swift and conclusive.