Megaflo system - inadequate flow rate

[Nixt]

Fabulous!!! Then an unvented cylinder can blow your kids to pieces as it explodes next to their bedrooms.

Your sort will not be convinced until you see a death. Intelligent and responsible people see the safety drawbacks and look at failsafe solutions and install them.

By 'your sort' are you including people that have endorsed the Alpha CD50 in their reply to an OP? Because if you are (being as it too features a 'non failsafe' system) then the 'your sort' includes you.

Or maybe all unventeds are dangerous except on the occasion where you recommend them.

 

[billy bob]

Is DD still banging on about that video, he has been asked numerous times to show where such explosion of an unvented cylinder has occured in the UK, he has never been able to do that, nor has he been able to verify any of his other claims, he also sings the praises of the Vitodens 333, this is an unvented cylinder.

 

[billy bob]

Is DD still banging on about that video,

Unvented cylinders must be banned

You have totally lost the plot now, as I have said before, show me factual evidence that a single unvented cylinder installed in the UK has blown up.

I suppose you will now stop recommending Vitodens 333, as this will make you a hypocrite if you don't, but it also proves you don't read the blurb from googling everthing, otherwise you would of seen that the 333 is an unvented cylinder and you are always harping on about how dangerous these are.

 

[Nixt]

Unvented cylinders must be banned

Yes - but what the trade needs to know is how the unvented cylinders you recommend don't blow up here, there or take down houses anywhere.

 

[billy bob]

Drivel will now stay quiet on this subject, hoping it will go away, so he does not have to explain himself for telling people to install the vitodens 333 and the Alpha CD50 which both contain an unvented cylinder, of which he claims are dangerous, Hypocrite.

 

[ChrisR]

Odd that Drivel & Co advocate GAS boilers at all, when there are nice safe ELECTRIC ones??
Gas is so much more dangerous than an unvented cylinder - count the deaths...

 

[billy bob]

Good point Chris, also modern gas boilers are sealed same as an unvented cylinder, maybe he should start advising people to heat there homes with an open log fire and heat the water for baths etc in a pot on the fire, far more safer than a dangerous sealed gas boiler

 

[billy bob]

I told you he would go quiet and hope the topic disapears, but I would like Doctor Drivel to explain after all his scaremongering about unvented cylinders blowing up, how he then recommends the use of boiler systems that contain unvented cylinders, please do tell.

 

[Doctor Drivel]

Odd that Drivel & Co advocate GAS boilers at all, when there are nice safe ELECTRIC ones??
Gas is so much more dangerous than an unvented cylinder - count the deaths...

I advocate them being outside. At EcoBuild at Earls Court I was talking to marketing men of boiler manufacturers. I mentioned this and why they don't make boilers with insulated water tight cases to be bolted on the outside. Rinnai are the only gas appliance maker to make an outside appliance. Many were enthused and were eager seeing a niche in the market.

A gave examples of new builds who would want a high flow combi and a jig to connect the pipes and then the boiler is fitted on the last day to stop the ****** stealing.

New builds would love it, as it frees the kitchen and airing cupboard and less pipe used. A yellow gas underground pipe to the back of the house to a boiler in a box there on the wall, a tee and into the kitchen for the hob. Maybe a secondary circulation kit like the Ethos. No noise, safe, easy to service, etc., saves masses of space and cheaper to fit. Their minds were racing. They said they talk about that back at the office. It's so obvious.

 

[Nixt]

He will not have it, unvented they blow
he must see dead bodies to believe it is so

So what's your excuse for recommending unvented cylinders?

 

[Gasguru]

AFAIK there has not been a single case of a purpose designed unvented cylinder exploding in this country. DD do tell me I'm wrong. The only recorded "unvented system" blowing up was a bodge job on a boat. The cylinder was designed for vented use only and no safety systems were incorporated.

 

[Nixt]

Please fit one in your bedroom.

You, must, you must, fit one today
When it blows up we will shout hip hooray!

There's the irony, I don't actually like them but accept others do whereas you reject them but have a secret fetish for them.... though no longer a secret since your subliminal recommendations about Alpha CD50's has slipped out.

 

[Nixt]

Drivel your secret's out, don't be ashamed. Time to let your unvented come out of the cylinder closet.

 

[billy bob]

Drivel, you have not answered the question, why after claiming that unvented cylinders are so dangerous have you recommended the use of the Vitodens 333 and the Alpha CD50, both of which contain an unvented cylinder.
You say you were talking to marketing men of boiler manufacturers, which manufacturers were these and what the F**k do marketing men know about boilers, as their name implies they are merely in marketing, they know nothing about the technical side of boilers.

 

[Doctor Drivel]

You say you were talking to marketing men of boiler manufacturers, which manufacturers were these

A number all were eager. At least they will look at it.

and what the F**k do marketing men know about boilers, as their name implies they are merely in marketing, they know nothing about the technical side of boilers.

They know about boilers and what the market wants - that is their job. If they decide the market needs a boiler that can be externally mounted, R&D get to work on one.

They liked the idea of no fluing problems - and all the rest.