Miniature 3-pin 230V inline connector suggestions

[stillp]

Throw them away BAS, they consume energy unnecessarily and cause light pollution.

 

[JohnW2]

Note: The LNE range of connectors is not suitable for mains connections to equipment for domestic use as defined in the Low Voltage Electrical Equipment (Safety) Regulations 1989.

Assuming that's true, I wonder why - since Cannon appear to have designed these (which I hadn't seen before) specifically for mains use. Is it perhaps possible to take them apart 'without the use of a tool' - or is it maybe simply that they have not been 'approved for mains connections to domestic equipment'?

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Don't know.

All I know is that a few years ago I bought a couple of PDUs with XLR LNE outlets on them on eBay, only then to find that I couldn't buy any bloody plugs to go into them.

 

[jossper1]

I used to work for a famous Big Broadcasting Company which used XLR LNEs as a standard connector. IIRC they were "not approved" from about 1989 because of lack of clearance to the live pins - something to do with the British Standard Finger. They were deemed to be acceptable in technical areas but we had to change them for something else or a captive mains lead on equipment used in offices. It always seemed to me that the convention for using them was backwards anyway - the "live" one beng the one with pins!

Paul

 

[Sureitsoff?]

I used to work for a famous Big Broadcasting Company which used XLR LNEs as a standard connector. IIRC they were "not approved" from about 1989 because of lack of clearance to the live pins - something to do with the British Standard Finger. They were deemed to be acceptable in technical areas but we had to change them for something else or a captive mains lead on equipment used in offices. It always seemed to me that the convention for using them was backwards anyway - the "live" one beng the one with pins!

Paul

Hi Jossper, I worked for that same Big Broadcasting Company (in LCR) and I remember the convention "not seeming to be right" As you say the live pins were on the half with the latch" the socket" and were visible, albeit in a slight recess, and the other half "the plug" had the shrouded connections. I supposed at the time that as there were thousands in use throughout our premises it would have been a nightmare to turn them all round. Mind you they do come in handy for personal use

 

[jossper1]

Sureitsoff, I was downstairs in ATA/Comms. The other funny thing about the convention - it was opposite to the convention for audio xlrs - signal usually went into the one with the latch.

BAS - the plugs for those panels of yours were always like rocking horse poo when they were in use - no idea why, but you always had trouble getting them.

As regards the voltage ratings for the signal type xlrs - I suspect the 50v one is again because of clearance to live pins issues/safety rather than insulation.

Paul

 

[maltaron]

You can get plastic XLRs but I do'n't know what the rating is.

 

[plugwash]

IIRC conventional powercons (dunno about the new powercon true1) aren't considered suitable for domestic use either. In the powercon's case I belive it's because they aren't designed to be safetly disconnected under load.

 

[Grizzly]

BAS - the plugs for those panels of yours were always like rocking horse poo when they were in use - no idea why, but you always had trouble getting them.

Canford are still selling the female cable and male panel versions, until the stock runs out: http://www.canford.co.uk/NEUTRIK-XLR-TYPE-AC-MAINS-POWER-CONNECTORS

IIRC conventional powercons (dunno about the new powercon true1) aren't considered suitable for domestic use either. In the powercon's case I belive it's because they aren't designed to be safetly disconnected under load.

The new True1 Powercons are definitely designed with breaking capacity, unlike the previous versions.

 

[jossper1]

BAS - the plugs for those panels of yours were always like rocking horse poo when they were in use - no idea why, but you always had trouble getting them.

Canford are still selling the female cable and male panel versions, until the stock runs out: http://www.canford.co.uk/NEUTRIK-XLR-TYPE-AC-MAINS-POWER-CONNECTORS

The panels BAS has/had, if they are what I think they are (PA9/something?), need the opposite sex ie a male cable connector, 'cos they are outlets.

 

[Sureitsoff?]

Grizzly/jossper did you see the price that Canford are selling the female cable connector at!!!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I did.

They're avin a larf.

 

[jossper1]

Larfing all the way to the bank! They were always 2 or 3 times the price of audio xlrs though. Looks like Sureitsoff & I are sitting on a potential goldmine!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Until what you own becomes so rare that nobody has a use for it any more...

 

[Sureitsoff?]

I knew I had it somewhere? I made this to go behind the TV DVD VHS and Sky in my previous house, might have to refit in this house (ps it is fed from a 5A FCU)