monitored alarms

[Steve]

Say I was to get a domestic monitored alarm from, say, ADT or (insert monitoring company name here), with basic monitoring.

Would this domestic alarm monitoring have the same provision as a commercial system, whereby a single sensor trip calls a keyholder, and a multiple sensor trip calls police immediately (verified breakin)?

What about part set activations, whereby everyone is asleep in bed and a sensor trips downstairs? And multiple trips on part set? What happens then?

 

[breezer]

its nothing to with who installs it its the regs.

if you had one installed today it would be as you say.

in part set it is not supposed to call anyone as there is some one already on site (you) so chances are its set off in error*

but any pa device activations will be passed directly to the police

*I believe the "part set no police" comes from commercial premises, where it has several areas, and Joe walks in unsets his bit, but Mary forgets to unset her bit, and walks in throuugh Joes bit into hers and sets it off, so the police say authorised person on site, we don't want to know

 

[saxondale]

Part set response is decided between the end user and his insurance company - it`s usuall to have full response

your alarm installer would need to be on the list of approved installer to apply for the URN that sets up full police response and if youve got smoke detectors and want brigade attendance you`ll also need a second "fire" URN

 

[breezer]

have to disagree with that (in a nice way)

its the police who decide if they come out or not, yes the insurance say what you should have, but its up to the police "regs"

part set should not call them

as for the fire brigade you do not need a separate urn for them for all parts of the country, most dont care, but do want the central staion to call site first.

i am told that some ARE looking into a urn, i guess it depends where you live in the country.

as an aside i dont agree with smoke, heat ect detectors on n intruder alarm calling the brigade, i know its done, i jut dont agree with it

 

[saxondale]

have to disagree with that (in a nice way)

its the police who decide if they come out or not, yes the insurance say what you should have, but its up to the police "regs"

you`ve got a very laymans view of how DD243 actually works havn`t you, the police decide nothing, there are no "police regs"

part set should not call them

your insurance company will say if you can be excepted and not call police during part set - it is very rare, the scenario you described above is not part set and dealt with differently

as for the fire brigade you do not need a separate urn for them for all parts of the country, most dont care, but do want the central staion to call site first.

i am told that some ARE looking into a urn, i guess it depends where you live in the country.

your`e remarkably well mis-informed, it depends if your living in the same date as the rest of the country (Oct 2006)

as an aside i dont agree with smoke, heat ect detectors on n intruder alarm calling the brigade, i know its done, i jut dont agree with it

better than nothing - but no longer allowed on commercial premises

 

[breezer]

but dd243 is "over ridden" by ppp62 the eu reg.

have you ever worked in London?

perhaps thats where the differnce of opinion comes from.

the met have a team who will actualy attend site and want to see the ins and outs of the whole installation, and i mean all the ins and outs. if the atending person doesnt like it, no responce for you. most of the time they will give you x time to change it to what they want

calling the police on part set is a no no

 

[davelx]

With my ADT system, if the alarm is cancelled withing 60 seconds they take no action (but you still have to call them and tell them what happened to get a reset code before you can set the alarm again). This is for both part and full set.

If the alarm is not cancelled within 60 seconds, they ring the premises. If they get no answer, or the person answering cannot give the codeword, then they call the police and contact keyholders to go to the premises.

 

[Steve]

A similar question:

If I enter the premises via an unapproved point, ie. not an entry/exit zone, will the monitored alarm go into full alarm straight away?

 

[saxondale]

but dd243 is "over ridden" by ppp62 the eu reg.

priceless- quoteing a reg. you don`t even know the correct number for even if that reg. has no bearing on the issue of police response

have you ever worked in London?

have you ever worked to DD243?

perhaps thats where the differnce of opinion comes from.

the met have a team who will actualy attend site and want to see the ins and outs of the whole installation, and i mean all the ins and outs. if the atending person doesnt like it, no responce for you. most of the time they will give you x time to change it to what they want

rubbish - whats the name and a contact number please

calling the police on part set is a no no

and again your wrong, you misunderstand part set but thought hmm no police response for an armed intrude then?

 

[breezer]

the met have a team who will actualy attend site and want to see the ins and outs of the whole installation, and i mean all the ins and outs. if the atending person doesnt like it, no responce for you. most of the time they will give you x time to change it to what they want

rubbish - whats the name and a contact number please

What ever i type you do not believe me, so i will just say

Just because you have not heard of something does not mean to say it does not exist.

 

[saxondale]

the met have a team who will actualy attend site and want to see the ins and outs of the whole installation, and i mean all the ins and outs. if the atending person doesnt like it, no responce for you. most of the time they will give you x time to change it to what they want

rubbish - whats the name and a contact number please

What ever i type you do not believe me, so i will just say

Just because you have not heard of something does not mean to say it does not exist.

easier for you if you answered the question, "you ever worked to DD243?" instead of going all mystical - to paraphrase yourself, lets just say I`m only posting corrections to your innacuracies

 

[scott1980]

To answer the original question, you can have the system set up so that police response is enabled in part/night set mode. We have a few sites set up like this but usually try to disuade it due to the potential for false confirmed alarms to be generated easily. We would usually provide a panic button in the master bedroom instead of having police response on part set, that way if the customer needs the police they can be summoned quickly (you will find police tend to respond quicker to PA alarms than confirmed alarms anyway)

What ever i type you do not believe me, so i will just say

With all due respect breezer, based on this and previous posts you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to intruder alarms. Sometimes it is better to stick to what you know...

 

[alphaalarms]

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With all due respect breezer, based on this and previous posts you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to intruder alarms. Sometimes it is better to stick to what you know...[/quote]

ere ere!
im so fed up with reading sections where peeps are giving un-true facts!!!
this does not help the person that posted the ruddy thread!!!
i would not go on the elec forum, banging on about things i know jack about!
thats it im dun