More diesel news!

[Burnerman]

Just been talking to an Audi service manager, and he reckons that new diesels, after 2015, will be fitted with an AdBlue tank - with a capacity of around 15 litres.
Naturally this is to conform with the latest euro emissions.
I reckon the gases coming out of the tail pipe will be cleaner than the air going in
John

 

[Dave54]

Is that anything like Esso Blue John?
You still get the odd diesel go past down here smelling like an icecream van with tvo fridge engine. . .
Seriously it's petrol for me next time!

 

[Burnerman]

Very close, Dave, very close
I'm thinking along similar lines to you, at the moment.....I'm hearing so many problems with diesel injection that I'm going to be concerned when my car is out of warranty.
A sobering thought, but there's no way I'm going to have repair bills running into the thousands!
John

 

[Ricardus]

We should go back to using horses. Then when the county is knee deep in horsecrap we can point out to the eco-weenie lobby that it's a natural, bio-degradable output.

 

[Belle427]

becoming more difficult to find a petrol model these days but i wont buy a modern diesel.

 

[Dave54]

And of course petrol engines are becoming more and more complicated, and some have direct injection as well. . .

Mark 1 Cortina anybody?

 

[Burnerman]

The big issues facing Diesel engine designers today are basically the huge pressures contained within the common rail, and injectors that have to deal with that and the extreme temperatures endured.
The petrol engine is happy enough with fuel being injected just before the inlet valve (in the majority of cases) which also has a cooling effect on the incoming air charge ......not possible with diesels unfortunately so the injectors have to run very hot- which doesn't help the wiring involved, of course......the fast acting solenoid can cope with that, but not so far with the other factors.
I would have thought that further development of the pompe deuse system would be the way forward but development does seem to have stalled there.
John

 

[gregers]

yet more cash to be conned out of the tdi drivers,1st its the dpf's now this.

classic i read about dpf's,iirc a guy was sold a tdi car with this fitted on the island of jersey where the max speed limit is about 40 mph.now how on earth is the guy goner burn off all the crud with such a low limit??.

 

[Whitespirit66]

Mark 1 Cortina anybody?

Yes, but only one that's been dismantled, had the body hot dip galvanised, then reassembled.

Will pay for itself in the long run with free tax and no MOTs.

Just been talking to an Audi service manager, and he reckons that new diesels, after 2015, will be fitted with an AdBlue tank - with a capacity of around 15 litres.

What's the MPG on that stuff John?

 

[Burnerman]

I'm afraid I cant answer that one with any guaranteed accuracy, but a pal of mine runs a MAN two axle truck - pulls 40 tonne.
He's delighted to achieve 8.5 mpg which is 0.5 mpg better than his previous Volvo.....
For every 1000 litres of diesel, he uses 4.05 litres of AdBlue - so its around 4%.
Whether thats the same for cars, I've no idea!
For sure, if your car has a DPF, the road tax is very low......my A1 (1.6tdi) - no tax,
Mrs B's Nissan Note (1.5 dci) - £30.
John

 

[chainsaw_masochist]

So with the impact of the problems affecting modern diesel motors generally, is there any evidence that this is having a negative influence on second hand prices? I cannot imagine that dealers (reputable or not) are all that keen to offer much in the way of warranties on their second-hand diesel stock, especially the higher mileage stuff.

I am not interested from a personal viewpoint (I will be sticking to petrol, thanks) but, considering these issues are now regularly covered in the media, I just find it difficult to grasp as why second-hand vehicles would continue to command premium prices.

 

[nickso]

Don't think I will ever buy a diesel, no point at the age I buy cars, the reliability is just not there.

Could be some pain coming for petrol users too though if they insist on adding more and more ethanol into the petrol.

 

[Whitespirit66]

Don't think I will ever buy a diesel, no point at the age I buy cars, the reliability is just not there.

Could be some pain coming for petrol users too though if they insist on adding more and more ethanol into the petrol.

What difference does ethanol make to the running of older cars? One of mine is 28 years old, but laid up in the garage for a while.

 

[Burnerman]

The addition of ethanol tends to rot butyl rubber based products such as fuel pump diaphragms and some gaskets......that's what I've found anyway!
John

 

[Peter.N.]

Don't think I will ever buy a diesel, no point at the age I buy cars, the reliability is just not there.

Could be some pain coming for petrol users too though if they insist on adding more and more ethanol into the petrol.

What you do is buy a 10 year or more old diesel, if you get an Hdi from that period they are very reliable and economical and no DPF on the 2.0. 8 valve. I have an 01 406 with 226,000 miles on it, I have done nearly 40k of that and its never gone wrong apart from normal maintenance. I also have a C5 with nearly 200k. They will do 60 mpg driven gently and have cheap road tax. And you can buy them for peanuts.

Peter