Musk to the Rescue
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Why the f were they left in space?
If that was true, why didn’t Musk say so at the time?After being left stranded in space for months by Biden for political reasons Musk is allowed to rescue the stranded astronauts
Well done thunderbirds are go
Oh that’s right it’s because Musk is a liar
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Because space X forked up
Wasn't it Boeing who messed up?
yep but dont let the truth stand in Notches way
Yes it was an issue with the boeing starliner after spending billions on it and years of delays since it was supposed to be in operation in 2017.
It was deemed not safe to bring them home in it after it had flown them there. So musk to the rescue.
I don't know where to start with this.
I'm afraid that is a view that some mainstream media is going with, but planning for space missions takes years.
The planning stages for Crew 10 started in 2018.
Butch and Suni were never stranded - they always had a way back, even without Starliner, the initial thoughts were to send them back in converted cargo space on Crew 8 Dragon.
Whether you call it 'political', or budget reasons, it made more sense to NASA to incorporate Butch and Suni into Crew 9.
Apparently Musk made an offer to send another ship up, but NASA wasn't aware of this, and if they were, it would have cost money they haven't a budget for, it would have messed up docking schedules and left the ISS with a crew short of Americans (that would be a political issue).
Even then, this is what astronauts want to do, Suni has even been station commander during her stay. What astronaut wouldn't want that on their résumé. This is what they are paid for and what they want to do.
It made far more sense to only carry two astronaughts up on Crew 9, and incorporate the Starliner crew.
With Crew 10 due to arrive, the handover can occur and Crew 9 can leave on Dragon Freedom (something they could have done anytime since October, given the above constraints).
The crew 10 mission has also been delayed - SpaceX was building a new Dragon capsule, but due to battery issues, SpaceX had to repurpose Dragon Endurance for the flight - a further delay of a month actually caused by Musk!
Yes, Starliner was a debacle and SpaceX are pretty damn impressive.
But this is not really a political decision (unless you include any budget decisions as politically motivated).
It was a pragmatic decision that has been months in the making, utilising resources that had been planned and in place for years.
Sorry for the outpour!
No, that was a great post! The whole "pity these poor astronauts being stranded" narrative is so lamentable.
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Great post, gets the Highway Man seal of approval and that means a lot,I don't know where to start with this.
I'm afraid that is a view that some mainstream media is going with, but planning for space missions takes years.
The planning stages for Crew 10 started in 2018.
Butch and Suni were never stranded - they always had a way back, even without Starliner, the initial thoughts were to send them back in converted cargo space on Crew 8 Dragon.
Whether you call it 'political', or budget reasons, it made more sense to NASA to incorporate Butch and Suni into Crew 9.
Apparently Musk made an offer to send another ship up, but NASA wasn't aware of this, and if they were, it would have cost money they haven't a budget for, it would have messed up docking schedules and left the ISS with a crew short of Americans (that would be a political issue).
Even then, this is what astronauts want to do, Suni has even been station commander during her stay. What astronaut wouldn't want that on their résumé. This is what they are paid for and what they want to do.
It made far more sense to only carry two astronaughts up on Crew 9, and incorporate the Starliner crew.
With Crew 10 due to arrive, the handover can occur and Crew 9 can leave on Dragon Freedom (something they could have done anytime since October, given the above constraints).
The crew 10 mission has also been delayed - SpaceX was building a new Dragon capsule, but due to battery issues, SpaceX had to repurpose Dragon Endurance for the flight - a further delay of a month actually caused by Musk!
Yes, Starliner was a debacle and SpaceX are pretty damn impressive.
But this is not really a political decision (unless you include any budget decisions as politically motivated).
It was a pragmatic decision that has been months in the making, utilising resources that had been planned and in place for years.
Sorry for the outpour!
That's the bit that really gets me; due to the starliner issues, the two astronauts Zena Cardman and Stephanie Wilson were left off of the Crew 9 mission.
After years of training, it would have been absolutely devasting for them to miss that opportunity, through no fault of their own.
And again, due to the years of planning involved, they couldn't just be bumped over to Crew 10.
Nasa didnt know that musk offered to bring them back months ago
Now who would have thought no one at NASA watches the news or reads newspapers you live and learn
And MUSK who works closely with NASA on various missions and must speak to them at least on a weekly basis never mentioned it to them
Yep totally believable
But regardless the offer was made directly to Biden which he refused . As for cost they could give billions to ukraine but not a couple of hundred million to bring guys back
Now who would have thought no one at NASA watches the news or reads newspapers you live and learn
And MUSK who works closely with NASA on various missions and must speak to them at least on a weekly basis never mentioned it to them
Yep totally believable
But regardless the offer was made directly to Biden which he refused . As for cost they could give billions to ukraine but not a couple of hundred million to bring guys back
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As usual, you seem to misunderstand almost everything! I honestly can't work out whether you do it on purpose. But this is what one of the "stranded" astronauts said just last week
im sure she and her family are ecstatic about an 8 day mission turning into 9 months just think of all the overtime pay .As usual, you seem to misunderstand almost everything! I honestly can't work out whether you do it on purpose. But this is what one of the "stranded" astronauts said just last week
And it was also one of those astronauts who said they had been left up there for political reasons ,
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