Yes, he said he believes it is factual, in that he believes Musk is telling the truth. And then he clarifies:
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Yes, he said he believes it is factual, in that he believes Musk is telling the truth. And then he clarifies:
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you do realise they work for the government and not musk poor old notch unable to get the basicsGosh what a surprise astronauts choosing to be on the side of the man who runs a space company.
Poor gas so easily taken in
To put that in context, here is the press conference...
@10:10 comment from Butch suggesting the decisions weren't politically motivated.
@16:20 comment from Butch suggesting he believed Musks comments to be factual.
There's a good write up from arsTECHNICA on the Musk comments here...
NASA officials undermine Musk’s claims about “stranded” astronauts
“We were looking at this before some of those statements were made by the president.”…
arstechnica.com
SpaceX is bringing them home. Great for them, not so good for Boeing.
From the article.
So yes, SpaceX has been working with NASA to present options, including the possibility of a return last fall. However, those discussions were being held within the program levels and their leaders: Stich for Commercial Crew and Dana Weigel for the International Space Station..
So nasa did know that he had offered to return them.
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Now how clear a hint is required
During a recent press briefing, Ken Bowersox, associate administrator of the NASA's Space Operations Mission Directorate, admitted that there 'may have been conversations' in the Biden White House about delaying the return for political optics of having Trump's most famous donor save the day, but he was not part of the discussions
So yes, SpaceX has been working with NASA to present options, including the possibility of a return last fall. However, those discussions were being held within the program levels and their leaders: Stich for Commercial Crew and Dana Weigel for the International Space Station..
So nasa did know that he had offered to return them.
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Now how clear a hint is required
During a recent press briefing, Ken Bowersox, associate administrator of the NASA's Space Operations Mission Directorate, admitted that there 'may have been conversations' in the Biden White House about delaying the return for political optics of having Trump's most famous donor save the day, but he was not part of the discussions
yep should have just let boeing bring them back .
Not an outpouring, a factual clarification. Why does the rational explanation always take longer than the spun headline though?I don't know where to start with this.
I'm afraid that is a view that some mainstream media is going with, but planning for space missions takes years.
The planning stages for Crew 10 started in 2018.
Butch and Suni were never stranded - they always had a way back, even without Starliner, the initial thoughts were to send them back in converted cargo space on Crew 8 Dragon.
Whether you call it 'political', or budget reasons, it made more sense to NASA to incorporate Butch and Suni into Crew 9.
Apparently Musk made an offer to send another ship up, but NASA wasn't aware of this, and if they were, it would have cost money they haven't a budget for, it would have messed up docking schedules and left the ISS with a crew short of Americans (that would be a political issue).
Even then, this is what astronauts want to do, Suni has even been station commander during her stay. What astronaut wouldn't want that on their résumé. This is what they are paid for and what they want to do.
It made far more sense to only carry two astronaughts up on Crew 9, and incorporate the Starliner crew.
With Crew 10 due to arrive, the handover can occur and Crew 9 can leave on Dragon Freedom (something they could have done anytime since October, given the above constraints).
The crew 10 mission has also been delayed - SpaceX was building a new Dragon capsule, but due to battery issues, SpaceX had to repurpose Dragon Endurance for the flight - a further delay of a month actually caused by Musk!
Yes, Starliner was a debacle and SpaceX are pretty damn impressive.
But this is not really a political decision (unless you include any budget decisions as politically motivated).
It was a pragmatic decision that has been months in the making, utilising resources that had been planned and in place for years.
Sorry for the outpour!
Yes, as I said, NASA had been working with SpaceX on alternative methods to bring them home...
Or from the article...
But your tenet has been...
My points have been...
They were never stranded.
They wanted to be there, they're astronauts - watch the full press conference for an idea of how they enjoy being in space.
The decision to leave them there was pragmatic, rather than political.
They didn't need to be 'rescued' in the first place.
They were due to come back in February if it hadn't been for a problem with batteries on the new Dragon. The only accelerated timeline here has been the repurposing of Dragon Endurance - something that had been a back-up plan for months.Well done thunderbirds are go
So well done to Trump and Musk for making a political statement over events that were well in motion.
Where did the 5 trillion go.?Gas112 says: Trump is making America Great again
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Or is it the case that these huge numbers only exist on paper.
Elon Musk has apparently lost 150 billion.
Did he ever actually have the 150billion in the bank to loose or are these figures just notional estimates of wealth based on share prices.
so if Biden seemingly never gave NASA the heads up that musk would bring them back and the option to, how was this not political
Have you actually been following the thread
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