Neighbour draining rainwater into my septic tank (Ed.)

[Stivino]

In my amateur opinion, I agree with Brigadier, and I thank him for explaining it so eloquently.
Rain water has the potential to inundate the tank.
I can understand that there are times when rain water is directed to the tank, but if it's avoidable, it should be avoided.
If a sceptic tank is possible, a soakaway. or other mechanism, must be equally poossible for the rainwater.

The above is the main reason I won't contribute.
The above and the post it refers to are word salads. I know they are word salads, but the authors believe it to be true. If I was to contribute, my words would be poo poo'd (pun intended) so I don't bother, I don't want to be farting against thunder.
BTW, there is much more to water qualifications than septic tanks.
They start with the hydrological cycle, water extraction, water storage, filtration, what we put into the water, what we take out, why we take it out, Chlorination, Ph correction, sampling, transmission, distribution, materials and components, wastewater treatment etc.
That is just a snapshot.

 

[Brigadier]

The above is the main reason I won't contribute.
The above and the post it refers to are word salads. I know they are word salads, but the authors believe it to be true. If I was to contribute, my words would be poo poo'd (pun intended) so I don't bother, I don't want to be farting against thunder.
BTW, there is much more to water qualifications than septic tanks.
They start with the hydrological cycle, water extraction, water storage, filtration, what we put into the water, what we take out, why we take it out, Chlorination, Ph correction, sampling, transmission, distribution, materials and components, wastewater treatment etc.
That is just a snapshot.

Useful post

 

[Roy Bloom]

The above is the main reason I won't contribute.
The above and the post it refers to are word salads. I know they are word salads, but the authors believe it to be true. If I was to contribute, my words would be poo poo'd (pun intended) so I don't bother, I don't want to be farting against thunder.
BTW, there is much more to water qualifications than septic tanks.
They start with the hydrological cycle, water extraction, water storage, filtration, what we put into the water, what we take out, why we take it out, Chlorination, Ph correction, sampling, transmission, distribution, materials and components, wastewater treatment etc.
That is just a snapshot.

Weird! You decided not to contribute well before I posted.
In fact, it would appear you only chose to post because I had posted.

 

[Stivino]

Because you had posted a lot of tosh and I was interested to know the explanation.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Rain water has the potential to inundate the tank.

The above is the main reason I won't contribute.
The above and the post it refers to are word salads. I know they are word salads, but the authors believe it to be true.

Weird! You decided not to contribute well before I posted.
In fact, it would appear you only chose to post because I had posted.

Because you had posted a lot of tosh and I was interested to know the explanation.

So you say, in which case i would have expected a knowledgable person to be able to explain why it was tosh.
It seems you couldn't, in fact you didn't addres it at all, you just called it tosh.

Please explain how it is tosh, and why you disagree.
Otherwise you're just trolling.


By the way, I have extensive experience in recognising trolls, and you're a troll, and I've just explained why.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I doubt I could explain it better than I already have. Just don't put rainwater in a septic tank, ever.

But sadly the keyboard warriors will just argue about anything on here, including one who claims to have a degree in sewage or something, proof that it's all fantasist nonsense.

This is utterly basic knowledge, anyone who's ever done any work with drainage and sewage knows not to do it. Lots of cowboy builders do it, but that doesn't mean it's correct, it means that they're botching the job on the cheap and don't know or care about how to do things properly.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Rainwater should NEVER enter a septic tank or sewage treatment system of any kind, whether it's your own or a neighour's. We had exactly this botched situation when we moved in, and have spent £1000s and lots of work correcting it.

The issue is that when it rains heavily, the vast amount of water at a high flow rate will rinse out the septic tank, so the Poo Pee and Paper that's sitting in it will, instead of sitting there nice and settled on the bottom, get stirred up into a slurry. This disgusting stinking goo will either enter whatever river or drainage ditch your system discharges into or, just as bad, if your system uses percolation pipes then it will block all the holes and permanently stop it working altogether.

If the discharge is to an open water course then it's OK to couple the rainwater to the OUTLET of the septic tank, i.e. combine treated sewage with fresh rainwater. In fact this can be a good thing as it keeps the pipes beyond fresh and clear. If this is your scenario then it could be a good option, if the neighbour is willing to make a fair contribution.

If the discharge is to a percolation system then don't do it, as it will get overwhelmed in heavy rain. You would be likely to end up with bursting drains and spewing toilets if it backed up.

I don't have a degree in sewage (does such a thing exist?) but have had to learn lots to sort out the mess some cowboy builder made to our place lots of years ago, as a result all our crap was pouring into a ditch further down and making the place stink.

My previous detailed explanation for those who don't know how to scroll back up.

 

[Dereekoo]

Rainwater should NEVER enter a septic tank or sewage treatment system of anykind

Unless its a full blown sewage works, then it can and does, the surplus inundation is discharged to rivers etc but best not mention that

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Unless its a full blown sewage works, then it can and does, the surplus inundation is discharged to rivers etc but best not mention that

The same issue applies, just on a larger scale. When it rains heavily the treatment works can't cope. Instead of letting the entire sewage works get rinsed into the river, they open upstream emergency relief valves, releasing the incoming rainwater/sewage mix directly into the rivers, bypassing the sewage works. This is bad, but not as bad as it would be if they let the whole lot rip through the sewage works.

This is why building control generally don't like to see rainwater going into sewers, it should be soaked into the ground or dealt with otherwise. Some developments have communal rainwater systems, completely separate from the sewage, often using ponds to take the glut while it gradually seeps into the ground.

Whether for a septic tank or sewers, rainwater shouldn't normally be mixed with sewage. There are lots of houses where it is, but it's gradually being reduced.

 

[Stivino]

Sewage works have storm tanks (blind tanks to some people). Once the influent becomes greater than three times D.W.F. it goes to the storm tanks. The reason for this is that, it is the first flush of flood water that is the most polluting. Only when the storm tanks are full does the water overflow to the receiving stream.
D.W.F. = Dry Weather Flow. Which is equal to the normal flow into the works when it isn't raining. And, although I used the figure of three times, it will vary depending on the works.

 

[Stivino]

But sadly the keyboard warriors will just argue about anything on here, including one who claims to have a degree in sewage or something, proof that it's all fantasist nonsense.

I think you'll find that it is you who is the keyboard warrior and the one who is writing fantasist nonsense.

 

[Trazor]

By the way, I have extensive experience in recognising trolls.

IRONY alert.

 

[Roy Bloom]

IRONY alert.

Hypocrisy Alert

 

[Deleted member 221031]

So you've been amusing yourself?



Is that another word for trolling?
And it still doesn't answer why you decded to become involved this time. You've offered no advice, refused to explain what you think when the scenarios I've presented occur, nor offered anyone the benefit of your specialist knowledge.

And you wonder why you get grief. Head shake.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Big hugs everyone. We're all talking ****e on this thread.