Neighbours challenging LDC

[tony1851]

Why worry now about what the council might or might not do?

Cross that bridge if and when you get to it.

 

[upnorthnow]

Why worry now about what the council might or might not do?

Cross that bridge if and when you get to it.

To not end up on the back foot given how determined those neighbours seem to be. In other wrods, to think ahead about mitigating any risks we may likely face to achieve final completion of our project.

However - the replies from you and others have been most helpful in validating our legit position. Thank you!

 

[oldbutnotdead]

Parking - the joy. I had an odd bit of grassland to the left of my driveway, seemed to me it would make an excellent off-street parking spot so checked with Highways, dug it out, gravelled it (permeable so PD), Highways did the dropped kerb- cue stroppy neighbours who've been 'parking my car there for 20 years, you can't stop me'. No I can't but the council can- a few £60 tickets and most have wised up.

Whoever said the neighbours are jealous is probably correct- they want to park their car outside your driveway so they don't have to dig their front garden up. Choices choices (for them- you've made your choice and as long as Highways are happy then there's nothing your neighbours can do)

 

[lt8480]

The LPA will have withdraw some of the PD rights as it is a conservation area, this can cary by area though so what PD rights have been withdrawn need to be checked.

 

[noseall]

Why worry now about what the council might or might not do?

Might as well not bother with planning in the first place then?

 

[upnorthnow]

Thanks for your reply

Whoever said the neighbours are jealous is probably correct- they want to park their car outside your driveway so they don't have to dig their front garden up. Choices choices (for them- you've made your choice and as long as Highways are happy then there's nothing your neighbours can do)

The most unhappy neighbours are the ones who cannot actually have their own driveway due to a combination of (a) their house not directly fronting the road, and/or (b) too small front garden/yard for a car to even fit.

I understand their frustration, but it's not really my problem. It was their decision to accept car parking on the public highway when they purchased their homes (many years before we moved in).
More importantly, we increase the road parking as all our cars then come off the road for the loss of one public space (the dropped kerb bit).

 

[upnorthnow]

The LPA will have withdraw some of the PD rights as it is a conservation area, this can cary by area though so what PD rights have been withdrawn need to be checked.

Checked, and we are 'clear'.
i.e. there is no Article 4 direction applied to our house/street/etc.

 

[tony1851]

Might as well not bother with planning in the first place then?

It's fairly clear that what the OP has done is entirely PD, as the block paving complies with the conditions in F2.
I think he is concerned that a number of disgruntled neighbours are getting together and might pressure the council into 'doing something'.
Personally I doubt the council will do anything, because from what we have been told, the development is PD (assuming rights have not been withdrawn).
So from this, how do you come to the conclusion that I would 'not bother with planning in the first place'?

 

[upnorthnow]

It's fairly clear that what the OP has done is entirely PD, as the block paving complies with the conditions in F2.
I think he is concerned that a number of disgruntled neighbours are getting together and might pressure the council into 'doing something'.
Personally I doubt the council will do anything, because from what we have been told, the development is PD (assuming rights have not been withdrawn).

Great summary - thank you!

 

[oldbutnotdead]

Thanks for your reply



The most unhappy neighbours are the ones who cannot actually have their own driveway due to a combination of (a) their house not directly fronting the road, and/or (b) too small front garden/yard for a car to even fit.

I understand their frustration, but it's not really my problem. It was their decision to accept car parking on the public highway when they purchased their homes (many years before we moved in).
More importantly, we increase the road parking as all our cars then come off the road for the loss of one public space (the dropped kerb bit).

Yep. And it'll get worse- more adult children not moving out of parents home, rubbish public transport and relatively cheap cars = much more parking pressure.
My first house 30 years ago I could always park within 20 yards of the front door. 25 years later a 100 yard walk became common, one reason for buying the House of Pain (with off street parking for all my toys )

 

[lt8480]

Thanks for your reply

The most unhappy neighbours are the ones who cannot actually have their own driveway due to a combination of (a) their house not directly fronting the road, and/or (b) too small front garden/yard for a car to even fit.

I understand their frustration, but it's not really my problem. It was their decision to accept car parking on the public highway when they purchased their homes (many years before we moved in).
More importantly, we increase the road parking as all our cars then come off the road for the loss of one public space (the dropped kerb bit).

If the highways are happy with the dropped kerb their is little the neighbours can do to complain.

From the neighbours perspective the issue is probably that you can still park on the road as well as on your drive, and your work doesn't guarantee a removal of cars off the road. They may be worried you are simply intending on getting more cars. Indeed, often you do see people who park on the road and then keep their drive clear for guests, which you are within your right to do, but the sort of thing that annoys people when they can't park.

 

[upnorthnow]

If the highways are happy with the dropped kerb their is little the neighbours can do to complain.

From the neighbours perspective the issue is probably that you can still park on the road as well as on your drive, and your work doesn't guarantee a removal of cars off the road. They may be worried you are simply intending on getting more cars. Indeed, often you do see people who park on the road and then keep their drive clear for guests, which you are within your right to do, but the sort of thing that annoys people when they can't park.

Thanks
All understandable concerns, and we sympathise.
Seems like us doing something - legally - to progress our life/house becomes an easy target to use for an issue (limited public parking) that could have actually been raised (years ago, before we even moved in) higher up neighbourhood-wide through the available channels at the council.

 

[pilsbury]

Only one sensible option in my book.... PTLB.

 

[tony1851]

Only one sensible option in my book.... PTLB.

eh?

 

[Nakajo]

substance thru letter box