New alarm confusion
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youtekkinthepish
You need to speak to the relevant parties.
how can anyone else give you a true and relevant answer?
Why do you want an autodialler?
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youtekkinthepish
Well, as i say. you need to speak to all relevant parties, get alternate quotes AND advice if need be. Remember, you telling the installers what you want is not advice.
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ahdsh
It depends on who you speak to.
An alarm that is 'bells only' sirens these days but the terminoligy remains will give a visual deterent and an audible notification to local parties if the premises are broken into.
The next step up is to have a system that links to your phone line and uses your phone line to call yourself and usually up to two or five more numbers in the case of activation.
Some autodiallers simply call out when the alarm is activated with a spoken pre recorded message. There is no contracts or charges with these systems.
If you want an autodialler to be connected to an ARC (Alarm recieving centre) then it must give a digital response compatible with the ARC
This will tell the ARC the type of event that has happened, your URN and wether two seperate events have occured allowing the police to be informed. If you wish for the police to be informed the monthly costs are greater than if you just want keyholders to be informed.
The problem with land line autodiallers is that the phone lines can be cut externally.
If you have an autodialler that simply phones yourself then you wont receive that call.. If your autodialler is connected to an ARC their system will acknowledge the phone line is cut but they will not be able to inform the police until keyholders have assesed the property.
2 keyhoders are required for an alarm to meet with police approval. They must be contactable 24/7 and be able to reach the property within 20 minutes.
You can instead use a gsm unit attatched to your autodialler for a nominal amount of around £120. This calls out using a mobile phone sim card. This solves the problem of someone cutting the phone line. The minor problem with these are that occasional calls from the sim card need to be made or it will expire an expired sim will not call out.
The highest security option is for a gsm unit and a land line. known as dualcom. BT redcare is an example of this. The costs can be high though.
At the end of the day whoever it calls wether yourself and two trusted friends , neighbours or relatives or via an ARC to two registered keyholders and the police the outcome all depends on where everybody is and what they are doing.
If the police are busy they may not attend. If you get a call yourself and you are 20 miles away then there's not much you can do. If you have good neighbours you can call them. I have a neighbour with an autodialler alarm direct to his mobile. When he was abroad and he recieved a call he simply called another neighbour who checked the property before the siren had even stopped.
There was no contract or fees for that system and it worked well with the aid of a good neighbour.
You pays your money and you takes your choice as they say.
As they say, "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing"
DualCom & RedCARE are two different things
Suggest you do some research before you give out more misleading information, here are 4 different technologies for you to start with, there others but I thought the easy ones would be best for you
Digital Communicator
RedCARE
DualCom
RCGSM
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youtekkinthepish
Let me add to this.
Make sure the advice you get is from someone who knows what he is doing and understands the subject.
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ahdsh
Thanks for your clarification I am only pointing out what is available as a rough guide not as a technical bulletin. The Op now knows that there are different levels of communication available with differing levels of robustness. I pointed out having gsm and a landline as a belt and braces approach. I didn't say dualcom and redcare were the same just two examples of available systems.
Digital communicator I already explained was an autodialling device sending digital information in the correct format for the ARC
also known as digicomm for short
Dualcom is wired and wireless transmitted together
redcare classic covers wired only transmission and monitoring of line integrity while redcare gsm or rcgsm as you call it is a land lline and gsm.
A guestion here...
since sequential signalling is an important part of the confirmed alarm process prior to calling the police can one of you uber experts tell me what an arc does if a phone line goes dead?
Do they..
ring BT faults?
or do they assume a crime and send for the police
or do they require a keyholder to visit the premises to see wether its just a line down or a criminal act?
I know one thing. nobody volunteered to help the OP out with any detailed information other than myself
RCGSM is correct
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slowdown
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