New skool phone wiring

[morqthana]

Who still has an old style 'ordinary' type, plug in, dial or button type phone?

I have several. Why wouldn't I?

 

[FrodoOne]

I really must check if my current NBN/Cable/Internet connection can operate on a "Loop-Disconnect" "Dial" phone -
IF I can find one !

 

[Mottie]

I have several. Why wouldn't I?

No idea, I don’t know you. Hoarder maybe?

 

[Sureitsoff?]

I still have a trim phone plugged in.

 

[morqthana]

No idea, I don’t know you. Hoarder maybe?

No, it's because until BT ripped the supporting infrastructure out, hardwired phones were the best solution in a house which was fixed to the ground and didn't move about.

 

[morqthana]

Anyway - returning to this...

Switchover happened a while ago, the NTE5 is still where it was, and the BT hub is roughly in the place where I want it, plugged into the NTE5 with a loooonnnnggggg flat RJ11 cable. I don't like the route of the cable, and when I re-route it it will have to be even longer.

I could leave the NTE5 where it is, but I'd rather move it to where the hub is.

Is there a limit to how long the cable from NTE5 to broadband modem can be?

Would Cat5 with an RJ11 at each end be better than the flat cable?

Would moving the NTE5 and extending from the incoming dropwire be better?

 

[davelx]

What I did was to get OR to install the NTE 5 with the unfiltered faceplate, then I ran a normal phone extension from that upstairs to where I wanted the router, where I installed a NTE 5 with filtered faceplate to which I could connect both the router and a phone. For the dowstairs phone extensions I just connected them via an ADSL filter to the NTE5. Worked fine.

 

[foxhole]

I have a mobile phone .

 

[morqthana]

So do I. Your point being?

 

[morqthana]

What I did was to get OR to install the NTE 5 with the unfiltered faceplate, then I ran a normal phone extension from that upstairs to where I wanted the router, where I installed a NTE 5 with filtered faceplate to which I could connect both the router and a phone. For the dowstairs phone extensions I just connected them via an ADSL filter to the NTE5. Worked fine.

Don't need any ADSL filtering for phones now.

But my situation is I really don't want the NTE5 where it is now. It's in a room which was a home office, but now I've gone & retired, it's going back to be a bedroom. It used to have the incoming phone line, master socket, broadband modem, router, and where the phone sockets round the house were wired from.

So yes, I could leave the master there if I really had to. But as I'm going to be replacing the cable from it to the modem, I figured I'd rather extend the incoming BT cable and move the master - no more work, and better from my POV.

 

[securespark]

I'm thinking of buying a UPS for my Mum

BT are soon going to pull out her copper and replace it with FTTP, but she has a council-supplied carecall system, which won't work in a power cut.

So I plan to buy such a unit to power all the equipment needed to stay powered to keep the line and carecall going.

 

[FrodoOne]

So I plan to buy such a unit to power all the equipment needed to stay powered to keep the line and carecall going.

However, is it possible that any such "power outage" would also affect the "cabinet" where the Optical Fiber/Copper interface is located,
unless the "Cabinet" also contains "Back-Up" batteries?

 

[FrodoOne]

Anyway - returning to this...

Switchover happened a while ago, the NTE5 is still where it was, and the BT hub is roughly in the place where I want it, plugged into the NTE5 with a loooonnnnggggg flat RJ11 cable. I don't like the route of the cable, and when I re-route it it will have to be even longer.

I could leave the NTE5 where it is, but I'd rather move it to where the hub is.

Is there a limit to how long the cable from NTE5 to broadband modem can be?

Would Cat5 with an RJ11 at each end be better than the flat cable?

Would moving the NTE5 and extending from the incoming dropwire be better?

The NTE5 socket represents the official demarcation point between the internal/domestic wiring (at the removable front of the socket which is the customer's responsibility) and the external telephone line/cabling fixed at the rear (which is BT's responsibility) the physical disconnection of the two sets of wires (made possible by the NTE5's removable front plate) is crucial in identifying faults and allocating responsibility for their rectification.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_telephone_socket )

Theoretically, the NTE5 the property of BT and should not be disturbed.
(However, I doubt that they will ever care about it again - as long as you do not attempt to "feed" any voltage "up" that now non-working "phone line".)

The NTE 5 is designed to terminate single copper pair lines in the customer premise.
It is only a "single copper pair", so it can be just "telephone cable" (4 wire), connected via 6P4C connectors.
Hence, no (practical) limit on its length - as long as it is no longer than was the distance to your local telephone exchange!

The "hub" is (presumably) now providing your "telephone connection".
You need to dis-connect the non-working BT connection
and
connect the "telephone-lines" within your property to the "hub", as described in posts #2 and #14.

 

[morqthana]

You need to dis-connect the non-working BT connection

It's not non-working, and it's the one I use.

 

[securespark]

However, is it possible that any such "power outage" would also affect the "cabinet" where the Optical Fiber/Copper interface is located,
unless the "Cabinet" also contains "Back-Up" batteries?

Poo. Didn't think of that.

But if our BB is FTTP, is it fed from the cabinet? Not sure there is copper in our local system?