Nigels view on how to stop the riots.

[Andydevon]

Dionne Barrett may well disagree with you.

Machete killer to be released after SIX MONTHS due to overcrowding

Gordon Gault (pictured), 14, died in hospital six days after he was attacked with a blade during an ongoing feud in Elswick, Newcastle, in November 2022.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[denso13]

Don't know if Filly got this from Nige,

 

[fillyboy]

First of all, it was mainly white (Romanian) people rioting in Leeds. Secondly, the police were caught unawares, it was a spontaneous riot and they weren't in any position to react. Plenty of arrests were made afterwards.

But that aside, are we saying that far right rioters should be allowed to burn down mosques and hotels with people inside because the police got things wrong in Harehills? This is so lame and desperate. And more than a little bit bonkers!

Most bonkers post of the night. Well done.

People are saying all sides should be policed with the same rigour.

 

[denso13]

Dionne Barrett may well disagree with you.

One year early on a 2 year 8 month sentence? C'mon...

 

[fillyboy]

Don't know if Filly got this from Nige,

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And posted minutes afterwards.

 

[JonathanM]

People are saying all sides should be policed with the same rigour.

You can't police a large spontaneous riot when you simply don't have the officers. There have been other spontaneous riots in the past when the police have lost control and been unable to respond. These things just happen occasionally. It doesn't mean there is a conspiracy. The desperation to link these two events is really sad. But it seems to be all that people on that side of the argument have.

 

[Andydevon]

So Denso how would you explain it to Dionne Barrett?

 

[fillyboy]

You can't police a large spontaneous riot when you simply don't have the officers. There have been other spontaneous riots in the past when the police have lost control and been unable to respond. These things just happen occasionally. It doesn't mean there is a conspiracy. The desperation to link these two events is really sad.

Were these riots spontaneous?, most days have had news reports listing where the riots would occur. Even Sky news is accusing the police of two tier policing, until the microphone is taken away of course.

 

[JonathanM]

Were these riots spontaneous?, most days have had news reports listing where the riots would occur.

Yes, that was actually my point. The Harehills riot exploded out of nowhere and the police were caught totally unawares. They sent reinforcements but they were overwhelmed. The far right rallies have all been organised on social media and the police have had time to plan.

 

[JonathanM]

Dionne Barrett may well disagree with you.

About what? I know I'm being obtuse, but I don't get the link to the riots.

 

[fillyboy]

Yes, that was actually my point. The Harehills riot exploded out of nowhere and the police were caught totally unawares. They sent reinforcements but they were overwhelmed. The far right rallies have all been organised on social media and the police have had time to plan.

Questions being asked about the withdrawal of police. The 'totally unawares' argument doesn't stack up either, full scale riots don't escalate in minutes.

West Yorkshire Police to review response to Harehills disorder

West Yorkshire Police say they will conduct a review of their response to the disorder in Harehills.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[IT Minion]

About what? I know I'm being obtuse, but I don't get the link to the riots.

A white kid was killed by some black kids. So it's fine to burn brown asylum seeker kids. Or something like that, it's a desperate play of the race card to avoid the reality of what's happening.

Its no suprise the far right on here are trying to claim these aren't far right riots. They don't want to accept that the people literally trying to destroy the country, one shoezone at a time, are their ideological allies.

 

[IT Minion]

Totally agree - that is why I said I don't necessarily blame the Black people for BLM - The left wing loons are much to blame for divisiveness that is being created in society, they are using black people to their own ends, they are doing a lot more harm than good.

I don't for one moment believe there is even the slightest disadvantage to anyone in the UK regarding Skin Colour, Gender or sexuality. So for me BLM are complaining about stuff that does not exist in the UK

Blaming the left when they're not in power, blaming the left when they are in power. Its always the lefts fault when the neo Nazis go hunting mosques and trashing libraries.

 

[JonathanM]

Questions being asked about the withdrawal of police. The 'totally unawares' argument doesn't stack up either, full scale riots don't escalate in minutes.

I am aware questions are being asked. But the evidence from locals in various newspapers was that the police had to withdraw for their own safety because they were vastly outnumbered. This has happened before in the UK. This riot certainly was spontaneous. This is an incredibly densely populated area of Leeds.The rioters just poured out onto the streets when they saw what was happening. It wasn't an organised riot where they had to ship in rioters from far away like the far right riots.

 

[fillyboy]

It wasn't an organised riot where they had to ship in rioters from far away like the far right riots.

The police also have the power to ship in support, as they do every Saturday in London, granted the London unpleasantness isn't 'spontaneous'.