Northern Rock customers, don't panic!

[url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/anatole_kaletsky/article2492639.ece]TOL[/url] said:
...Britain needs a modern system of deposit insurance comparable to those in America and most of Europe. The nonsense of offering only 90 per cent insurance to deposits up to £35,000, with a repayment period stretching into months, must be replaced with a guarantee of instant repayment in full, with the limit raised to at least £100,000. This is a reform that the Bank of England has long demanded,...

Too bludy right... Don't notice an inflationary increase added to the £35k do we?

My underlining ... I reckon it could run into years never mind months.

USA FDIC said:
...Historically, insured deposits are available to customers of a failed bank within just a few days. Since the start of the FDIC in 1933, no depositor has ever lost a penny of insured deposits...
...The basic insurance amount is $100,000 per depositor per insured bank. Certain retirement accounts, such as Individual Retirement Accounts, are insured up to $250,000 per depositor per insured bank...
... indexing the coverage limit for retirement accounts to inflation as with the general deposit insurance coverage limit. This change was made effective April 1, 2006...
Well done USA !!
http://www.fdic.gov/index.html
;)
 
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...the Treasury clarified that its guarantee was for Northern Rock alone, and only on customer savings "existing at midnight on September 19... [including] future interest payments... [and] accounts re-opened in the future by those who closed them between September 13 and September 19..."

Get your dosh outa there ... ffs!
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just got a note from them:


Dear Customer(s)

Good News!
Increase to Silver Savings Online interest rates and Customer Loyalty Bonus

I am delighted to inform you of some changes to your Silver Savings Online Account.

We have increased the annual interest rate on Silver Savings Online from 6.30% to 6.49% gross p.a./AER1. The monthly interest rate has also increased to 6.49% AER1. These changes were effective from 30 November 2007.

A thank you to Northern Rock savers

You are really important to us and we cannot thank you enough for staying with us through these difficult times. You have kept faith with Northern Rock and we'd like to start paying that back.

So all savers who had a savings account with us on 1 December 2007 and who keep their money invested with us until 1 March 2008 will receive an extra guaranteed bonus of 0.50% gross p.a. on their savings. This bonus rate will be calculated daily on the balance of your account between 1 January 2008 and 1 March 2008. This additional bonus interest will be added to your account shortly after 1 March 2008 and paid in accordance with your existing interest payment instructions.

This bonus is in addition to the interest rates shown in the table below.

All savers continue to be protected, so you can be certain that your savings plus any new deposits are absolutely secure.
 
Well thanks for sharing that with us. My mind will be really at ease now. I think I've got a letter from the library about overdue books. If I have time later I'll post it here. Or maybe I should start a new thread? I don't know. Decisions, decisions.
 
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This is the Northern Rock thread, so you should start your own Libary Book one.

BTW if you aren't interested in reading threads about Northern Rock...



...don't read them.
 
better to be a depositor than a shareholder.

Looks like they are winching up the interest paid to keep the depositors in with them.
 
I am interested in reading about Northern rock. After almost three months without a post in this thread, when it resurfaced I expected to find something interesting, not a copy of someones personal mail. Maybe we should all start uploading our mail to the forum. I got a bill from the vet today. Think I'll start a Daily Mail thread.


By the way, I would appreciate you not telling me what posts I should or should not read.
 
extract from http://www.investorschronicle.co.uk...4-a4aa-11dc-bfea-00144f2af8e8/FTSE-firmer.jsp

7/12/07

PRESS SUMMARY:

US private equity firm JC Flowers has walked away from the competition to buy Northern Rock, raising the prospect that the Government will have to consider nationalising the Newcastle-based lender, reports the Telegraph.

In letters sent to the stricken bank and to the Treasury yesterday afternoon, Flowers is understood to have told Northern Rock's chairman, Bryan Sanderson, and John Kingman at the Treasury that it could not construct a deal meeting its own profitability criteria that would be acceptable to the Government.

The Times adds that a bid for Northern Rock from Olivant, the investment group run by Luqman Arnold, is also hanging in the balance after it emerged that the firm was refusing to sweeten its takeover proposal.

Meanwhile, Northern Rock said yesterday that retail deposits had stabilised as it revealed for the first time the amount it had borrowed from the Bank of England. The bank said that outflows of deposits had reduced sharply since Virgin Money was announced as preferred bidder nearly two weeks ago. The prospect of a one-off bonus for existing savers also helped to shore up the deposit base. The bank said it had borrowed less than £700m from the Bank of England in the past week, taking its total borrowing to about £25bn, writes the Independent.

and

extracted from http://www.investorschronicle.co.uk...8e8/Olivant-outlines-Northern-Rock-rescue.jsp

Olivant outlines Northern Rock rescue
Created: 7 December 2007 Written by: John Adams
Further details have now emerged from Olivant - the investment firm headed by former Abbey National boss Luqman Arnold - concerning its rescue plan for stricken mortgage lender Northern Rock.

While thin on detail, Olivant - which says its looking to merely inject its expertise into the bank rather than buy it outright - is proposing to raise between £600 and £800m. Of this total, £150m of which will take the form of a subscription from Olivant with the balance being raised via a rights issue at roughly the bank's prevailing share price. Olivant says that major shareholders, currently representing 23 per cent of the bank's equity, have committed to participating in the fund raising.

Moreover, Olivant is proposing to arrange debt finance in order to repay £10bn-£15bn of the Bank of England's emergency loan with the balance - Northern Rock owes roughly £25bn - set to be repaid by end-2009. The plan has, so far, not been discussed with the government.

The proposal has met with a cautious response in the City. "Olivant has not released any data to help investors take a view on the stock," said Collins Stewart's banking analyst, Alex Potter. "This remains a high-risk situation with very little clarity and we would avoid the situation until further details emerge."

Potential bidder JC Flowers & Co is reported to have withdrawn from the race and the only other bid - from a consortium led by Virgin Group - values Northern Rock well below the current 103p share price.


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TIP UPDATE:
SellOn the face of it, Olivant's proposal could prove more attractive for investors than Virgin's bid as it would, at least, allow existing shareholders to retain a majority stake. But enough uncertainties surround both Virgin's offer and Olivant's proposal for shareholders to remain cautious. On that basis, exiting now remains the least risky option. Sell at 103p.

and
extract from http://ebm.mailftb.com

So, JC Flowers has thrown in the towel and has walked away from Northern Rock. It might not be the last bidder to quit the race. The problem facing any proposal is that going through the normal channels it has to meet with shareholder approval. Now, most astute investors have already sold their shares, but some canny hedge fund operators, notably RAB Capital, have taken significant stakes, which in RAB's case cost nearer 200p a share. It is not about to vote itself out of millions of pounds so long as there is any possibility of someone else coming in to run Northern Rock as a going concern and giving them a chance of some upside. The problem is that Northern Rock is not a going concern. Its business model is inoperable in current market conditions, and it exists only as a result of over £25bn in taxpayers' subsidies. The latest idea is to simply close the bank to new business, run off the mortgage book and sell its assets. But this still leaves shares in the bank with little or no value. The end is nigh, or soon will be.
 
Investor's Chronicle said:
Outrage! Outrage, outrage, outrage! Northern Rock's shareholders are disgusted. Incandescent with rage at the treatment that has been meted out to them by Alistair Darling and Gordon Brown, via their decision to nationalise the bank.

And they're not going to take this scandal lying down. The UK Shareholders Association likens the nationalisation to theft, and says it is examining legal options to thwart the process. The big hedge funds who invested in the bank are also likely to turn to the law, demanding at least 400p for shares that were trading on Friday at 90p.

Unfortunately, their efforts are likely to be in vain. Much like the black knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, who refuses to give up despite losing both arms and legs, they're talking the good talk in the face of impossible odds against them. The fate of Northern Rock stands with the government, and has effectively done so ever since it turned to the Bank of England for emergency funding.

The bigger question for investors is whether Northern Rock's shareholders are justified in their fury. At first glance, of course they are. If the government handles things well (admittedly, a big if), it could make a healthy profit on its "investment." Although its reputation is in tatters, Northern Rock has a half-decent loan book, and running that off should provide a healthy return. To deny shareholders their slice of the pie is at the very least unfair and, at the most, as the shareholder groups suggest, an outrage.

But in another sense, Northern Rock shareholders have had it better than most. Listed companies run out of funding all the time. The usual consequence is a small RNS announcement saying that the shares have been suspended "pending clarification of the financial position", followed a few weeks later by the appointment of administrators. Shareholders get nothing, and no chance to sell.

Northern Rock's shareholders have known since last summer that the bank was reliant on the government for funding and that nationalisation was, if not likely, then at least possible. And as the months have gone on, nationalisation has become the most likely option. Northern Rock's shareholders have, thanks to the government, had months to sell on the open market (as we have repeatedly advised them to do). Shareholders in other companies that have gone to the wall might be wondering why the government has not extended the same courtesy to them.
http://www.investorschronicle.co.uk...-11dc-b738-0015171400aa/Outrage-and-theft.jsp
 
As an (ex-)Taxpayer I would be obliged if all you Northern Rock mortgage holders could settle your account with me in the next 14 days
 
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