Yes im self employed and have been for many years. Many years ago i had a 715 and the tax man changed the law and so everyone had to go on the books. Then everyone went back self employed. No one has ever said to me that i HAVE to go on the books and im sure there are many many in my situation. As for my boss he doesnt want the hassle of taking me on and i dont blame him. I just dont see how it makes any difference to my situation unless HMRC are in charge of apprenticeships these days? As for MCS who are you to say that i wont/unlikely to be a member?