As I said, they might charge you more if you don't have one.
Octopus want to fit a Smart meter!
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I think this will be the next stage to force people to get smart meters,
"Hi, your meter has reached the end of its lifetime and needs to be exchanged. We've asked our installation partner SMS Plc to contact you to arrange an installation. Or you can book now by calling our installation partner SMS Plc on 03300945231"
"Hi, your meter has reached the end of its lifetime and needs to be exchanged. We've asked our installation partner SMS Plc to contact you to arrange an installation. Or you can book now by calling our installation partner SMS Plc on 03300945231"
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You can't refuse a Smart Meter if yours is faulty or out of certification.
See a good list of pros and cons on this website: https://www.smartme.co.uk/good-or-bad.html.
Overall I'd say get a Smart Meter - even if it doesn't communicate it's no worse than a traditional meter.
See a good list of pros and cons on this website: https://www.smartme.co.uk/good-or-bad.html.
Overall I'd say get a Smart Meter - even if it doesn't communicate it's no worse than a traditional meter.
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That website is no more than a smart meter promotion scheme. Notable absences from the 'disadvantages' - remote disconnection & hacking. The privacy disadvantage is downplayed. Anyway conventional wisdom here and other places is that smart meters are not complusory at this point, you cliam they are if the meter is faulty or out of certification, got anything to back up your claims (like a link to the legislation)?
Again, possibly..
But these are from some slightly more reputable sources - Which:
And Citizens advice:
Getting a smart meter installed
What smart meters are, when you can get one installed, whether you can refuse a smart meter, smart meter specifications and how to save money with a smart meter
I suppose I must be wrong, but I must say that I thought that most (maybe even all?) of the tariffs offered by Octopus were dependent upon one having a 'smart' meter?
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I just joined them and no, you don't need a smart meter. However no-one is currently offering much in the way of tariffs - something to do with the energy crisis.
Not having bothered to research it, I bow to your superior knowledge. However, all tariffs are very similar at moment, due to the cap.
Again, I suppose I must be wrong but I thought that, uniquely, Octopus are offering various fancy 'dynamic' tariffs which are necessarily dependent on having a 'smart meter'?
You are obviously right in saying that, by virtue of 'the crisis', no (or virtually no) supplier is currently offering any 'fixed price' tariffs, but that doesn't stop them offering (''smart'-meter-dependent) TOU tariffs (at prices which are not fixed).
Kind Regards, John
I'm with Octopus and have a smart meter, and to be honest the anti-smart meter arguments are a bit lost on me. My meter works fine, I don't have to submit meter readings, I've been able to make a few pounds with the demand reduction scheme they ran this winter, and I don't fear my meter being switched to prepay as I pay my bills.
It also does allow me to use some tariffs that can save money which you cant get if you have a dumb meter. I moved onto the octopus tracker the other month (before they introduced a limit on how many could switch per day) and I believe that they have made a smart meter a mandatory requirement for it now. Because of my smart meter I am able to get my gas for 5.75p/kWh today, and my electric for 24.15p/kWh today - quite a saving.
It also does allow me to use some tariffs that can save money which you cant get if you have a dumb meter. I moved onto the octopus tracker the other month (before they introduced a limit on how many could switch per day) and I believe that they have made a smart meter a mandatory requirement for it now. Because of my smart meter I am able to get my gas for 5.75p/kWh today, and my electric for 24.15p/kWh today - quite a saving.
As I've just written to Detlef, virtually everyone is now on 'variable rate' tariffs, subject to the 'caps', but that doesn't preclude dynamic TOU-based tariffs (which are obviously dependent on 'smart' meters) - which I thought Octopus were (uniquely) offering. However, as I keep saying, I may be wrong!
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that is interesting. I wonder if Bulb under Octopus will offer that.
I would assume you will just become an Octopus customer. I was with Avro Energy before they went bankrupt and Octopus took their customers on. Once I was moved over and my octopus online account became active I noticed the option to ask for a smart meter on the website and thought I'd go for it. To my mind the benefits of a smart meter outweighed the negatives and thought time of use tariffs opened up the chance for savings if done right - and from my experience so far I'd say I made the right call.
Quite right. I swapped to SM's almost as soon as they were offered, and I've never had any of the problems the conspiracy theorists have put forward. Likewise, I have always paid my bills and via DD, though I am in a bit of debt at the moment due to BG's miscalculating, and I'm making them wait for payment. No skin off my nose, I could pay them off tomorrow.
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