Oil depot explosion

yes, it cuts steel :confused:

but your point being?

ok so as thermo says, you give it a few wraps arround the tank, then you detonate, which, will have one of two effects
1) it will cut the steel, about 5mm all round, which will not be totaly continuus due to being thicker in placesa which will hold it together, so the clean cut formed will then compress down and seal the gap, leaving a wall of fire with the fuel trickle(and thats what it is likly to be) alight - easy to control by fire service....

2), it will cut the the tank in half leaving you with a few million gallons of fuel running out, will cause mass damage but not explode on the scale seen

your defeating your own logic here because were back to the "why dosnt fire run down the gas pipe" science.....

oh and as for putting the cord arround the whole tank, dont forget it has two skins that are seperated by a cavity so would be useless....

the only way it could explode like that is to have a fuel/air mix, hell you even stated it yourself!

so at the mo it looks most likly to be as dabaldie suggests with an empty tank but prior to filling with water /non flamable liquid to disapate the mixture, maybe a float switch or something that should have been deactivated in the tank wasnt shut off and ignited - who knows

the rumbling before the explosion, hmm...... well, what makes a rumble? rushing gas, can be caused by fire rapidly burning, prehaps a large vent duct or something was full of fuel air mix and ignited at one end and burnt through very rapidly, candle effect, then reached a tank it was connected to, went inside, the volume of gas was burning faster than it could excape and then something has to give- bang

but all we can do is speculate with educated guesses, but one thing i would point out is that, its unlikly to be the explosive cutting cord because the witnesses would have seen the flash and bang before it did its job.
 
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Is he still at it? what a dingbat! :LOL: :LOL:
As stated explosives burn and release energy in the form of gas, gas expands and if contained it creates pressure, pressure builds up and kaboom!

the difference between certain explosives is how fast they burn and release this gas, modern explosives are efficient at burning at very fast speeds therefore the expansion of gas is extremely rapid.
 
I guess this was UK's 'full stop' or 'endpiece' to the Kyoto business ... If it was not so sad it would make you laugh !! :(
 
supersparks said:
mixture, maybe a float switch or something that should have been deactivated in the tank wasnt shut off and ignited - who knows
Oh no! did you have to mention a float switch!
:LOL: :LOL:
 
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As soon I hear more I'll let you know what causes the fire...............


Fire at Buncefield.

The current position at the scene is that the fires are now out and we await the all clear from the Emergency Services so that we can gain access to commence the process of damage assessment. This survey is likely to take some time.

The BP terminal at Buncefield was not directly involved in the fire but it did sustain blast damage. The main fires occurred at the Total/Texaco terminal on this site and it would appear that their terminal will be out of action for a very long time. However, the British Pipeline Agency (BP / Shell ) terminal was also badly damaged. In common with many other buildings in the surrounding area, the BP office at Hemel Hempstead suffered blast damage and is currently unusable, and the BP petrol station in Breakspear Way is also shut down with blast damage.

The immediate incident response team has managed to restore supplies to the retail stations from alternative terminals and we only experienced a few minor stock outs. Since the British Pipeline Agency terminal handles our jet fuel supplies to Heathrow, damage to this has had a severe impact on Air BP. Heathrow Airport is only operating at 70% of normal supplies and we are still investigating alternative delivery methods.

The business continuity plan for the Hemel office worked well and key staff have relocated to Milton Keynes and Sunbury. It may be necessary to review these arrangements in conjunction with affected employees given that disruption could continue for some time.
 
no, looks like it was one of the tanker drivers, un-aware of a leak turning his engine off!

or not realising he wasnt supposed to use the kill switch when there is a leak

poor guy

masona.....your not that poor guy are you? :LOL:
 
cant remember what you are meant to do in the event of a leak.. (racks brain).
might even be just drive off unless you are in a petrol vehicle.. which we never allowed in anyway.
diesel only.
..
ah thats it. Ex rated kill switches only
 
I think I've worked out what happened.

There was faulty safety valve that allowed just the right concentration of air/fuel to escape. It was a still morning. The heavier than air mixture formed an explosive concentrate around the tanks. Eventually it ignited. The resulting explosion was enough to fracture the welds in nearby tanks and up they went.

Simple really eh? There just wasn't a way that a tank could actually explode from the inside. It was all done from the outside.

Clever aren't I?


joe
 
joe-90 said:
Clever aren't I?


joe

no. now try leaving it to the experts, who can actually get to the site and get their own inof, not just what is shown on TV and let the, work out what happened. now **** off and stop sayin you know what happened.
 
andy said:
joe-90 said:
Clever aren't I?


joe

no. now try leaving it to the experts, who can actually get to the site and get their own inof, not just what is shown on TV and let the, work out what happened. now **** off and stop sayin you know what happened.

It's the only plausible answer. Chemistry proved it and my Dad confirmed it.

joe
 
joe-90 said:
It's the only plausible answer. Chemistry proved it and my Dad confirmed it.

joe

and has you or you dad been at the site of the explosion and investigated everything, found the source of ignition, what the 2 later explosions were and what started them. found out how fuel got outside the tank (thats if it did get out the tank)?

you cant complete an investigation into something this size in a few days by watchin the news and discovery channel.

grow up and stop thinkin you know everything
 
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