OK - I give in

Freddie said:
i thought attacking other forum members is against the rules besides wrecking the forum
Which is worse - wanting to physically attack people for real, or wanting to verbally attack them?
 
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ban-all-sheds said:
Freddie said:
i thought attacking other forum members is against the rules besides wrecking the forum
Which is worse - wanting to physically attack people for real, or wanting to verbally attack them?
i would say verbally attacking an offening peadofile is a lot worse than taking him on physically as the latter will make him or her think before they act or end there reign of terror

on a lighter note i am not personally against u B.A.S but you do get hot and bothered at times with the name calling


come one lets get together and do some undercover neighbourhood watching :LOL:
 
ban-all-sheds said:
Freddie said:
i thought attacking other forum members is against the rules besides wrecking the forum
Which is worse - wanting to physically attack people for real, or wanting to verbally attack them?

I suppose it all depends on who you are attacking, but that isnt the issue, the issue is whether you can control yourself on a forum with out ranting verbal abuse at other forum members who hold a different view to yours.

Have you ever thought that your views maybe repulsive to others? but then people dont attack you on this forum

You appear to be so wrapped up in what YOU think is right and what YOU should say and how YOU are going to correct everybody, you fail to see that it is a place for people to express their views on the subject matter as long as it doesnt break the rules. You fail to see the wind up, and if you already agree that your ranting wont change anybodies views then i fail to see the point of your rants except for just shouting abuse at others and ruining the forum.
 
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ban-all-sheds said:
Freddie said:
i thought attacking other forum members is against the rules besides wrecking the forum
Which is worse - wanting to physically attack people for real, or wanting to verbally attack them?

Ah, but that's the point, Ban. Slogger may write here about wanting to go at people with pliers, or cut their knackers off, but that doesn't mean he actually does these things and nor, I suspect, would anyone with no previous inclination to go out and do these things be swayed by reading an opinion on here.

You, on the other hand, are abusive to people regularly on here, not only in General Chat arguments but also shouting down newbies in Electrics, calling them stupid or incompetent or all sorts, sometimes for very minor reasons - You may not even think you do, but that's certainly how it comes across sometimes. And then there is the whole Julie thing, where you ran her off the forum because you'd had a disagreement with her husband and made a very spurious argument out of his user name, which seemed completely unnecessary.

No-one's perfect, and most people probably agree with the main thrust of most of what you try to say, but maybe you need to look at your debating style a bit, to prevent ruining other people's enjoyment of this place.
 
Slogger said:
on a lighter note i am not personally against u B.A.S but you do get hot and bothered at times with the name calling
It's not "name calling" - it is me voicing my opinion of what I truly think of you.

Freddie said:
the issue is whether you can control yourself on a forum with out ranting verbal abuse at other forum members who hold a different view to yours.
It's not ranting verbal abuse - it is me expressing my opinion of what I truly think of the person.

Have you ever thought that your views maybe repulsive to others? but then people dont attack you on this forum
Really?
Slogger said:
civilised society hmm i think not baby puppy
Slogger said:
there viewpoint is of a sad and malitious few
Slogger said:
OK Fu,kwit
Slogger said:
and you say your civlilised :LOL: nah your just a coward
Slogger said:
u sir are a fool
Slogger said:
you sorry excuse for a man
Freddie said:
Your good with the insults BAS but small on the brains.... are you really so inadequate you cant string a sentance together without resulting to the same old dross?
Freddie said:
i suggest you go and do what sad little people like you do
Freddie said:
Well f##k anybody if you think they shouldnt be executed, you are nothing but sick and no better than the fithy fiddlers yourself
david and julie said:
you are at best naive or more probably stupid.
david and julie said:
you have indeed lost the plot.... What a pillock
david and julie said:
More rubbish from Ban-all-sheds eh, sounds like the ramblings of a lunatic to me..... you are not big enough to acknowledge your pathetic wrong doing, which I will put the down to a combination of your arrogance and ignorance.... You are not what you seem, there is a thin veneer hiding a loser
david and julie said:
This is what Julie said along with lying R-soles reply....The problem is we dealing with a particularly nasty person with Ban.... Julie is adamant she doesn't want to have anything to do with such an obnoxious slob.
david and julie said:
You are too pig hesded and arrogant...you are nasty

you fail to see that it is a place for people to express their views on the subject matter as long as it doesnt break the rules.
Ah - so what a twisted set of rules we have. The rules permit people to advocate torture and murder, but prevent me from airing my view about the sort of person that makes them.

You fail to see the wind up
If it's a wind-up then it's not an expression of what someone believes. Are you claiming that Slogger is a liar?


johnny_t said:
Ah, but that's the point, Ban. Slogger may write here about wanting to go at people with pliers, or cut their knackers off, but that doesn't mean he actually does these things
Slogger said:
i practice what i preach :evil:

You, on the other hand, are abusive to people regularly on here, not only in General Chat arguments but also shouting down newbies in Electrics, calling them stupid or incompetent or all sorts, sometimes for very minor reasons
I very rarely call someone stupid on that forum (I can only think of one person who I might have done). Incompetent? Indeed, if I think they are, and I've agreed I may sometimes err on the side of caution, because the penalty for incompetence with electrical work can be death. Incompetence is a state of knowledge, not personality. Competence can be acquired. I am an incompetent plasterer, but if I wanted to change that I could go off and do it.

No-one's perfect, and most people probably agree with the main thrust of most of what you try to say, but maybe you need to look at your debating style a bit, to prevent ruining other people's enjoyment of this place.
So how do I make the point that people who want to maim, torture and kill are vile and despicable barbarians?
 
Your post is very confusing as to what point you are trying to make, but one thing you omitted here but picked up on previousley that i said and you thought it was someone else---i said something like---they should be tortured with a blow torch slowely and have kids shoot them with pellet guns and shove a red hot poker up their pipe----Bas it was a joke!!!---I think most people got it.

On your other point of expressing your view of forum members----the thread was about kiddy fiddlers, i havent seen a thread on BAS's opinion of other forum members but thats the way you send the threads you join in on.

If you dislike the other forum members so much why do you bother replying to their threads which you obviously misunderstand sometimes? or would you rather we all went away being as you dislike us so much
 
Freddie said:
Your post is very confusing as to what point you are trying to make, but one thing you omitted here but picked up on previousley that i said and you thought it was someone else---i said something like---they should be tortured with a blow torch slowely and have kids shoot them with pellet guns and shove a red hot poker up their pipe----Bas it was a joke!!!---I think most people got it.
Sorry - I don't make jokes about torturing people to a hideously painful death. IMO anyone who thinks that is a joking matter, and something to laugh about is a bit sick.

The whole issue of capital punishment and violent or vigilante action against offenders is a very serious one, that cuts to the heart of what makes a civilised society.

I don't joke about it, and I feel that if people cannot discuss it in a mature fashion, and avoid juvenile behaviour such as saying things that they don't mean (i.e. lie) in order to wind others up or to trivialise the debate then they should not participate.

There are plenty of topics that are not a matter of life and death for numpties to play foolish games on - they should stick to those.

On your other point of expressing your view of forum members----the thread was about kiddy fiddlers, i havent seen a thread on BAS's opinion of other forum members but thats the way you send the threads you join in on.
Only the ones in which the violent and bigoted spew out their hatred.

If you dislike the other forum members so much why do you bother replying to their threads which you obviously misunderstand sometimes?
If someone persistently says that they would like to torture and kill people, I take it at face value. You may call them liars if you wish.

or would you rather we all went away being as you dislike us so much
I don't want anyone to go away, but I would be delighted if the thugs and bigots here were persuaded by sheer weight of criticism to stop posting their unpleasant opinions.
 
ah but and its a big BUT


MY opinion is just that B.A.S an opinion mine to use as yours is

some people are weak some are strong whos to say whats right and wrong

some people follow rules and regulations to the letter some interprete them to suit the circumstances that are relevant there and then ie. if i saw a peado doing an unspeakable act then i would initiate my own form of justice there and then some wouldnt both courses of action are ok weak and strong

i do practice what i preach i will never stand back and watch an injustice i will act there and then and depending on the severity of the offending act

would i take a blow torch and pliers to an offender ? YES if it was my family or friends that had suffered

would i kill for my familiy and friends WHO WOULDNT

in the future B.A.S i will refrain from saying this action but i will simply say DO UNTO OTHERS AS THEY WOULD DO UNTO YOU peace
:LOL:
 
BAS when i made my comments on torture, MY thread had already gone off topic so anything that could be said on the matter had basically already been said for annd against but you repeated attacks on forum members turned it into a muti-page thread.

As regards what forum members can say--joke about--have an opinion on--etc etc, believe it or not isnt down to you and unless the rules have been broken it is allowed, of course if you are now the self appointed ruler of this forum i wish you could have informed us and let us know if you want us to refer to you as your majesty or your supreme royal holyness?

I repeat again for god knows how many times

Everyone is enritled to post what they like if it doesnt break forum rules and attacking other forum members is against the rules aswell as being self defeating

Your views maybe just as offensive to others as you see theirs

People are winding you up and you are falling for it

If people prefer to joke about a dark side of life who the hell are you to then post abuse at them just because you think it's wrong.

Have you now re-written the forum rules of this forum on what we are allowed to think--joke--and post on here???
 
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as mentioned here ..
"And then there is the whole Julie thing, where you ran her off the forum because you'd had a disagreement with her husband and made a very spurious argument out of his user name, which seemed completely unnecessary. "

you chased a wonderful warm natured, fantastic ,kind considerate ,STRONG FIERY LADY away from this site ..SHAME ...shame ..on you
Come Back please (pretty please !lol)Julie L/B ..

GOD........... I miss you more every day ..
this site is not same without you ,
Petal !!
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeese
:)




you have a penance to pay for this an YOU WILL PAY ..have you heard of karma /retribution ?

..BAS YOUR NOWT BUT A NASTY BULLY..

I like many others here can put comments here an if they are ripped to pieces so be it ..
but you hounded her cos she stood up to you an you turned it into a million post rant thread an ended with you calling her a lier an upsetting so much you chased her from the forum ...
I pity you...
an only have sorrow that you are such a pathetic sad person to destroy someone WONDERFUL online ..

an my other concern is others allowed this nasty charactor assissination to go on ...
You will always be known as BAS THE BULLY tm

XXXXXXXXX

ps
I dont agree with slogger but I let him post his thoughts here as its a free speach general chat site , an its becoming very rare online ..Trust me ..


an maybe an apology to admins/mods here IS NEEDED for your nasty whinny comments ,as YOU forget YOUR a GUEST here....XXXXXX ...*shakes head in disblieve *

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ban-all-sheds said:
Only the ones in which the violent and bigoted spew out their hatred.

Aren't you all guilty of this? I think that some of the posts are being misunderstood, reading them a couple of times helps to clarify whats being said, it helped me. Saying that though none of you know anything about each other(I don't think) as individuals yet you choose to to make ongoing abusive posts at each other just because you dislike or object to an opinion or statement. It does seem to be a bit extreme
 
Winstonchurchill said:
ban-all-sheds said:
Only the ones in which the violent and bigoted spew out their hatred.

Aren't you all guilty of this? I think that some of the posts are being misunderstood, reading them a couple of times helps to clarify whats being said, it helped me. Saying that though none of you know anything about each other(I don't think) as individuals yet you choose to to make ongoing abusive posts at each other just because you dislike or object to an opinion or statement. It does seem to be a bit extreme

Err i think you'll find that only a certain few will make abusive posts to a certain other few.
 
Welcome to the forum Winstonchurchill :!:

These things don't happen overnight and like any relationship need to give and take but I'm afraid this isn't happening and it's not always like this.

I been called a clown once but that rather friendly now :LOL: ;)
 
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