Optima G4 connecting new bell box

[Rob Bagshaw]

Could somebody please help. I have tried to help the old gentleman next door and its turned into a bit of a disaster.

He has an Optima G4 panel and an ancient alarm box. I have changed boxes before but when I took off the old bell box I was only met with four wires. Two to a siren and two to a strobe.

I spoke to Optima and this is what they advised but it doesn't work.

Panel Bell
B- Bell Trigger
D+ B+
A B-
T - short to A
STB - STB

Any help would be wonderful..... Thank you in anticipation.

Thanks Rob

 

[Alarm Engineer]

Your need to use two wires for the bells constant power (hold off + -) another for the bell trigger (in bell loop this wire into the strobe terminal so that strobe flashes upon bell activation, as you only have 4 cores you cannot have a seperate strobe wire) then the last wire will be for the tamper return.

What siren are you using?

Can you access control panel, your likely need to change wiring in here too.

 

[Rob Bagshaw]

Thank you very much for your help.

It is a Pyronix Delta Plus box.

Could you please show a little diagram to help me.

I thought the tamper in the bell box just looked like it was linked out.

 

[Rob Bagshaw]

Sorry that is incorrect - the tamper in the control panel just look shorted out

 

[Alarm Engineer]

Yeah sounds like there was no tamper before so it was looped out in panel, you should be able to monitor tamper now.

Disconnect all wires in panel or tell me what wires are in what terminals at present.

Tell me what the terminals are marked as in panel & bell, take pics if needs be and i'll tell you how to wire it up.

 

[Rob Bagshaw]

Optima G4 Panel

19 Strobe +
20 Strobe -
T It states under T and A SCE - and they have been shorted out.
A
D + under D and B it says Bell.
B -

Delta Plus Bell Box
Tamper
Tamper - it appears I may require a link to 12v -
Eng Hold
STB -
Bell -
12v +
12v -

I hope this is good enough - I don't want to call on him now.

Best regards Rob

 

[Alarm Engineer]

Wire bell like this

 

[Rob Bagshaw]

That's brilliant but can I have one for the other end too!

 

[Rob Bagshaw]

Plus doe I leave the link in across A and T

Regards Rob

 

[Alarm Engineer]

And panel like this

 

[Alarm Engineer]

Wire like this and remove any other links other than in the diagrams. Let me know how you get on.

Also its advisable that you enable the battery in the siren too. Small jumper link.

 

[Rob Bagshaw]

I therefore must take the link out between A and T

 

[Rob Bagshaw]

Ok, Can't do it until the weekend but I understand you far more than Optima.

The battery was already fitted on a plug in lead - will it not already be enabled?

Just for my knowledge I don't have anything coming out of the strobe connectors as I don't have enough wires.

Thank you very very much. I tried to help someone with my limited knowledge and it backfired.

Best regards Rob

 

[Alarm Engineer]

Thought deltabell had a small jumper link to enable the battery, just check instructions.

Your have nothing coming out of strobe terminals in panel as you dont have enough wires so we are linking the strobe with the bell trigger in the siren itself. Only downside to this is that when the bell time expires the strobe will also stop whereas we would normally have the strobe carrying on so that you would know that there has been an activation.

Let me know how you get on,

Good luck.

 

[Rob Bagshaw]

Thank you very much for all your help.

I have used forums every now and again and received great advice.

Thanks again. Rob