Outside Light

Get one which uses separate bulbs.

Then:

a) you won't have to trow the fitting away when the LEDs fail

b) you can experiment with different brightnesses and colour temperatures to find what suits you best.
 
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For an outside light in a porch, that is massive overkill.

When you say overkill, do you mean too bright? is my understanding correct?

Ok let me go hunting for something more gentle and subtle so we don't feel been blazed out by the light!
 
Get one which uses separate bulbs.

Then:

a) you won't have to trow the fitting away when the LEDs fail

b) you can experiment with different brightnesses and colour temperatures to find what suits you best.

good idea as did not realised this was LED which means each time, it failed, need to replace the whole unit again.
 
So ideally, what we need is something with bulb rather than LED with motion sensor and ideally 400 lumens / 2700K

if anyone has any recommendation for online supplier that might provide this, I would take any recommendations as I realised the previous option might not be suitable.
 
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good idea as did not realised this was LED which means each time, it failed, need to replace the whole unit again.

It's a double-edged sword....

Buy a fitting with none replaceable led, and it (hopefully) will have been designed for it's led and have better cooling for it, and it's electronics.

Buying one where the LED can be replaced, because the electronics are in the lamp base, it will run hotter, have a potentially shorter life. The best compromise, is a fitting designed for a replaceable lamp, designed for LED, but also designed for a large wattage LED, than will be fitted, so it will hopefully have better cooling.

It's heat, and too hot running, which shortens the life of LED's.
 
Oh, yes what I mean is replaceable bulb not the new fancy light fitting with non- replaceable led bulb.
 
I know my outside light on a short pole has a smart bulb fitted, as too bright and my wife can't see in the reversing camera on car to get down the drive, it was a 12 watt colour changing bulb, which we set to green for Halloween, and at around 15% for her to see to reverse into drive.
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As to why too bright is a problem with camera don't know, I don't drive that car. The problem with the bulb, is the base is at the bottom, so light shines up 1734348913737.jpeg I have tried to fit a reflector,
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to put the light where it wants to go, reversed this after, but inside of top is black, so without the tin foil the light is just absorbed, as the lamps are still designed for tungsten bulbs, I have one integral lamp for outside, where the light is in the top, so shines down, and it is so much better.
 
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So ideally, what we need is something with bulb rather than LED with motion sensor

You can always add a sensor to any light - if you find one you like which does not have a sensor.


and ideally 400 lumens / 2700K

That will be up to you - you'll be buying the bulbs. 3000K will be easier to find than 2700.

if anyone has any recommendation for online supplier that might provide this, I would take any recommendations as I realised the previous option might not be suitable.
Just look for outdoor/external/porch lights - find one you like. Then decide what bulb works best in it.
 
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