Panorama - The Smart Meter mess

[Mister Banks]

We live in a four storey Victorian house and pay less than £1783

It sounds like you’ve been ripped off in the past.

I don’t understand your point or why you’re making it. My post was demonstrating that my smart meter tariff has saved me money. I don’t care what you pay, I only care what I pay. You don’t even know what my energy consumption is.

 

[motorbiking]

The issues were not SM/analogue meter specific. In fact the more contentious issue of entering homes and changing the analogue meters to pre-pay, was what fuelled the scandal.

Next....

Nope. That is not what the letter to suppliers said. Next..

 

[motorbiking]

If I told you the author of the article was a respected, award winning, Cambridge educated economics journalist, with 20+ years of high end media experience, would it make a difference?

Or you can look at the offgem website. It’s all there. No spin needed. I think the real reason you won’t quote your source is because the rest of it doesn’t back up your argument.

In fact so far nothing has backed up your argument.

 

[Murdochcat]

That's a much easier question to answer.

I am with Octopus Energy and have been on their tracker tariff over the past 12 months. My total energy cost for the last 12 month period has been £1783, for the previous 12 months I was on the standard cap tariff the total energy bill was £2865.

But you are not comparing apples with apples. The cost of lecky has changed a lot .

Our dual fuel DD dropped too.

 

[Mister Banks]

But you are not comparing apples with apples. The cost of lecky has changed a lot .

Our dual fuel DD dropped too.

Electricity prices have changed with the price cap but not by a lot. The unit price i have been paying has been well below the price cap apart from one day recently. Have a look at the graph in post #158 which shows the price cap versus the tracker tariff.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

But you are not comparing apples with apples. The cost of lecky has changed a lot .

Our dual fuel DD dropped too.

How is comparing what you used over a year, and what you actually paid - versus what you would have had to have paid at CAP price, comparing apples to pears?

As did everyone's drop, but the point you seem oblivious of, is that on this tariff (Tracker), we are both making a fairly considerable saving. I've posted my graph, showing what I am saving, what I am paying each day for each fuel, along with the CAP price, the price which everyone pays, on a dumb meter. You can only get these deals with a smart meter.

 

[Nwgs2]

I don’t understand your point or why you’re making it. My post was demonstrating that my smart meter tariff has saved me money. I don’t care what you pay, I only care what I pay. You don’t even know what my energy consumption is.

You’ve clearly paid too much previously.

Well done for paying less.

 

[Mister Banks]

You’ve clearly paid too much previously.

Well done for paying less.

How much energy have I been using? Unless you know that you can't make any comment on whether I paid too much or not. I think I will leave it there.

 

[noseall]

the letter

Irrelevant. A lot of the claims regards those affected was mainly down to debt recovery employees entering homes and changing analogue meters to pre-pay. Hundreds of thousands of warrants issued to enter homes. Why do you think they needed to enter homes? Makes a mockery of your claim of remote switching, lol.

You really need to do some research boyo. You are making an exceptional tw@ of yourself this time.

 

[noseall]

. I think the real reason you won’t quote your source is because the rest of it doesn’t back up your argument.

In 2022, as the cost of living crisis took hold, magistrates approved more than 1,000 warrants a day. Almost all of these claims are now authorised electronically or over the phone, by specific magistrates courts allocated to each energy company.

Energy company agents apply by telephone and send in large spreadsheets with between 100 and 1000 cases, where customers are told they do have the right to contest the warrant, but many do not respond. The hearings will sign off, issue and send all the electronic warrants in "a maximum of 15 minutes" according to evidence from pilots.

Titter. There is actually more proving you wrong boyo, if you want more punishment.......

 

[noseall]

You are no more likely to be cut off or switched with a SM than you are with an anologue. FACT.

 

[noseall]

oh wait you're serious.

MBK Looking stupid again.

 

[noseall]

How much energy have I been using? Unless you know that you can't make any comment on whether I paid too much or not. I think I will leave it there.

Nwgs is a needy troll. Ignore the fool.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Nwgs is a needy troll. Ignore the fool.

Regardless of meter type, this is factual

 

[Murdochcat]

How is comparing what you used over a year, and what you actually paid - versus what you would have had to have paid at CAP price, comparing apples to pears?

As did everyone's drop, but the point you seem oblivious of, is that on this tariff (Tracker), we are both making a fairly considerable saving. I've posted my graph, showing what I am saving, what I am paying each day for each fuel, along with the CAP price, the price which everyone pays, on a dumb meter. You can only get these deals with a smart meter.

We have PV so I'm not so sure that we would make big savings and also as most of our usage for lecky is when we are cooking dinner around 6pm, the time when lecky is likely to be higher then would there be a saving?

A mate of mine went down this route about 9 months ago and will share his findings with me after 12 months - so I do have an interest.

I too monitor our bills and usage (have done for 11 years) so can see the impact of a cold winter, a mild winter, a cloudy summer and a sunny summer on our bills. Plus our daughter is back with us so we're back up to 4 adults and our son is now back to office 5 days a week so an accurate comparison ATM is tricky to say the least. Too many variables for us