Panorama - The Smart Meter mess

[carmanmemoranda]

so your seriously asking what the difference is in the process of hitting a button or gaining access and turning off an ecv for debt

No.

That's not the process of leading up to disconnection. That's the actual result, the disconnection.

What is the actual, specific, difference in ......

"The processes leading up to"

disconnection.

Up to, not disconnection

 

[gas112]

No.

That's not the process of leading up to disconnection. That's the actual result, the disconnection.

What is the actual, specific, difference in ......

"The processes leading up to"

disconnection

no right upto disconnection is the actual process

 

[carmanmemoranda]

no right upto disconnection is the actual process

So you can't detail the difference? Because there is none.

Once it gets to the final stage, then it's just whether it's a visit or a button press.

But up until disconnection, the processes leading up to it, are.

The same

 

[gas112]

So you can't detail the difference? Because there is none.

Once it gets to the final stage, then it's just whether it's a visit or a button press.

But up until disconnection, the processes leading up to it, are.

The same

it has been mentioned countless times about the differences about what happens between the second before a button press to the second before a hand physically touches an ecv . why do yo need it repeating

 

[denso13]

So you can't detail the difference? Because there is none.

There is no evidence to suggest you are more likely to be disconnected by either meter.

 

[gas112]

There is no evidence to suggest you are more likely to be disconnected by either meter.

really you think numerous visits by a supplier representatives and then court officials to a property before either being allowed in or gaining access is the same as hitting a button

 

[noseall]

There is no evidence to suggest you are more likely to be disconnected by either meter.

Correct.

It's why when I put up this little nugget....

Disconnection is rare.

The processes leading up to disconnection are the same for both meters.

You are no more likely to be disconnected or switched with either meter.

...not a single poster on this forum (for those that can actually read) can dispute it.

They won't, they can't....

 

[noseall]

Once it gets to the final stage

'Disconnection' is a distinct recognised process. It's quite rare also. The process leading up to it however is thorough and drawn out. Few people actually get disconnected, so blathering on about this late-in-the-game final solution is moot, when talking about differing meters.

It would be more beneficial for the anti-SM morons to talk more about switching to pre-pay, as this is done a hell of a lot more than disconnection. However, they have to reason with the fact that millions of home entry warrants were issued over a few years, indicating that SM remote switching was not the cause for alarm, but the fact that people had their homes violated by zealous debt collection agency workers. You are no more likely to be switched to pre-pay, with either meter.

OFGEM are happy with switching per say as they fully understand there are many out there that just plain refuse to pay for their energy consumption.

 

[denso13]

really you think numerous visits by a supplier representatives and then court officials to a property before either being allowed in or gaining access is the same as hitting a button

You need to concentrate, or sleep it off, or both...

 

[noseall]

You need to concentrate, or sleep it off, or both...

I think he must be bladdered or confused.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

it has been mentioned countless times about the differences about what happens between the second before a button press to the second before a hand physically touches an ecv . why do yo need it repeating

You've missed the point again.

It's about what happens LEADING UP to that point

Sorry I can't make it any simpler, but you carry on arguing about something different to what's being said