Paperbag's at the supermarket, wood spoons at Mark's

[gasbanni]

This drive to eliminate plastic is going on right now as the above shows, now M&S have wooden utensils near the Checkouts.

Reminds of a programme on the radio about countries where instead of diesel they use biofuel derived from rapeseed oil......all well and good but the unforseen knock on effect was the prices e of bread went up due to land being used to grow rapeseed crops instead of wheat !

The point being that the wholesale use of wood and paper is going to lead to its own problems.

In principle Malthus was probably correct regarding the demands of an increasing population and available resources

http://www.economicsdiscussion.net/...-population-explained-with-its-criticism/1521

Ps Diesel engines were originally designed to run on peanut oil !

 

[durhamplumber]

This drive to eliminate plastic is going on right now as the above shows, now M&S have wooden utensils near the Checkouts.

Reminds of a programme on the radio about countries where instead of diesel they use biofuel derived from rapeseed oil......all well and good but the unforseen knock on effect was the prices e of bread went up due to land being used to grow rapeseed crops instead of wheat !

The point being that the wholesale use of wood and paper is going to lead to its own problems.

In principle Malthus was probably correct regarding the demands of an increasing population and available resources

http://www.economicsdiscussion.net/...-population-explained-with-its-criticism/1521

Ps Diesel engines were originally designed to run on peanut oil !

With 7.2 billion people on the planet,plundering its resources like a plague,and such a wasteful society,,no perfect solution..1 of endless examples,,,1off use of aluminium to hold a drink ..Completely absurd

 

[SirGalahad]

With 7.2 billion people on the planet,plundering its resources like a plague,and such a wasteful society,,no perfect solution..1 of endless examples,,,1off use of aluminium to hold a drink ..Completely absurd

You have a fix for capitalism then?

 

[Mottie]

Communism?

 

[bernardgreen]

Ps Diesel engines were originally designed to run on peanut oil !

Mr Diesel's engines, there were many variants, ran on a lot of other fuels as well, one varient ran on coal dust. I would not be suprised if he had developed an engine that would run on flour.

 

[JohnD]

I wonder if you could run one on alcohol.

 

[JohnD]

In principle Malthus was probably correct regarding the demands of an increasing population and available resources

In principle perhaps, but in reality not.

He did not forsee the exponential growth in food production

Nor did he know that educating the poor, and especially girls, leads to smaller families. Cantillon was also wrong.

Nor that the most prosperous nations in the world would start to have declining birthrates which are insufficient to maintain their populations.

Interestingly, cultures which value boys more than girls and practice selective abortion, or permit polygamy, have sentenced themselves to a declining population, leavened by gangs, wars, prostitution, rape and homosexuality, because when those boys grow up, they find no women to marry.

 

[EddieM]

I wonder if you could run one on alcohol.

Doubt you could run a "diesel" engine off alcohol (presume you mean ethanol) I think the compression would be too high. Certainly run a petrol engine off ethanol.

 

[ellal]

Certainly run a petrol engine off ethanol.

Better with methanol...

Helps get an old motor through emissions test too

 

[mattylad]

2 workers at the checkouts sorting out the new wooden utensils...

worker 1 = "OK, what do we do with all the old plastic ones?"
worker 2 = "Throw them away as we have not been told to do anything else with them".

The entire point of this wasted before it even got started....

 

[motorbiking]

Yet nobody ever says the answer to man made climate change, pollution etc.. is fewer people. Contraception is the answer.

 

[EddieM]

Yet nobody ever says the answer to man made climate change, pollution etc.. is fewer people. Contraception is the answer.

I'm sure loads of people have said that. Though unfortunately that too has consequences.

 

[Brigadier]

Mr Diesel's engines, there were many variants, ran on a lot of other fuels as well, one varient ran on coal dust. I would not be suprised if he had developed an engine that would run on flour.

New Scientist did an article years ago, where someone ran an engine on powdered metal.

 

[transam]

No new anti biotics to fight infection have been developed since the 60's

 

[durhamplumber]

You have a fix for capitalism then?

Does that always have to be a wasteful polluting system then?...I was not aware only capitalism used aluminium for cans then placed many of them in landfill.