Paperbag's at the supermarket, wood spoons at Mark's

[JohnD]

2 workers at the checkouts sorting out the new wooden utensils...

worker 1 = "OK, what do we do with all the old plastic ones?"
worker 2 = "Throw them away as we have not been told to do anything else with them".

The entire point of this wasted before it even got started....

I suppose that's a made-up joke.

 

[Brigadier]

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18825221-100-powdered-metal-the-fuel-of-the-future/

 

[gasbanni]

Mr Diesel's engines, there were many variants, ran on a lot of other fuels as well, one varient ran on coal dust. I would not be suprised if he had developed an engine that would run on flour.

Dear Bernard I'm not talking about various subsequent developments just the original one !

 

[gasbanni]

New Scientist did an article years ago, where someone ran an engine on powdered metal.

Errrr isn't that what powers rockets powdered aluminium ?

 

[gasbanni]

In principle perhaps, but in reality not.

He did not forsee the exponential growth in food production

Nor did he know that educating the poor, and especially girls, leads to smaller families. Cantillon was also wrong.

Nor that the most prosperous nations in the world would start to have declining birthrates which are insufficient to maintain their populations.

Interestingly, cultures which value boys more than girls and practice selective abortion, or permit polygamy, have sentenced themselves to a declining population, leavened by gangs, wars, prostitution, rape and homosexuality, because when those boys grow up, they find no women to marry.

Food production isn't exponential, it's just got far more efficient due to the use of petrochemical fertilisers and industrialised mechanical methods.
Trouble is when this advantage is lost due to oil running out we have a very dire situation. The world goes on .....until the pumps run dry ....it cannot be said the pumps won't run dry. They have in lots of places already ....rusting derelict oil feeds . Link already posted on this.

 

[bernardgreen]

I'm not talking about various subsequent developments just the original one !

My recollection is that the first of Mr Diesel's engines were designed to run on the residue of heavy oils left after petrol has been extracted from crude oil. I might be wrong but the engine designed to run on peanut oil was part of Mr Diesel's promotion of bio-fuels as renewable energy sources.

 

[Brigadier]

Errrr isn't that what powers rockets powdered aluminium ?

I don't know, but this article was on about ICEs, iirc.

 

[mattylad]

I suppose that's a made-up joke.

IT is a made up joke John however it is a lot closer to the truth of what happens in the supermarkets, they are so wasteful.
At my local Asda everything goes into the compactor, nothing is sorted and they are damn awful at recycling.
It's all a front when you see stuff like this, that they have changed to sustainable items in store etc.
Out back its still being wasted and sent to landfill.

 

[Brigadier]

IT is a made up joke John however it is a lot closer to the truth of what happens in the supermarkets, they are so wasteful.
At my local Asda everything goes into the compactor, nothing is sorted and they are damn awful at recycling.
It's all a front when you see stuff like this, that they have changed to sustainable items in store etc.
Out back its still being wasted and sent to landfill.

I wonder if they still sling the whole wrapped tray of stuff, when just one jar breaks?

 

[mattylad]

Wouldn't surprise me.

 

[noseall]

Litigation is far more costly than 'chucking the lot'. Blame the greedy.

 

[Brigadier]

Litigation is far more costly than 'chucking the lot'. Blame the greedy.

Sad, but true.

What a waste.

 

[wobs]

You have a fix for capitalism then?

Doughnut Economics:
https://www.kateraworth.com/doughnut/

 

[wobs]

IT is a made up joke John however it is a lot closer to the truth of what happens in the supermarkets, they are so wasteful.
At my local Asda everything goes into the compactor, nothing is sorted and they are damn awful at recycling.
It's all a front when you see stuff like this, that they have changed to sustainable items in store etc.
Out back its still being wasted and sent to landfill.

Unlikely to go to landfill these days. The bulk of waste from a large supermarket will be cardboard/plastics. If all of that go into a compactor, it is likely to go to a MRF, where it will be sorted.

If it gets mixed with food waste, this is another issue, and make it more likely to end up in landfill.

 

[mattylad]

AIUI It does get mixed with foodstuff... yeuchhh
Everything goes in the "compactor"...