Parliament votes for the supremacy of Parliament.

[JohnD]

Who could have seen that coming?*










*me, for one.

 

[ellal]

Who could have seen that coming?*
*me, for one.

Quitters will be up in arms after getting what they apparently voted for

 

[transam]

Well Er

We do live In a parliamentary democracy

I assume you 2 bell **D's are aware of it

 

[JohnD]

Well Er

We do live In a parliamentary democracy

I assume you 2 bell **D's are aware of it

weird tranny.

But you say you agree that in the UK, we have the supremacy of Parliament, and have done since we last chopped a king's head off.

 

[Notch7]

Early GE is currently most likely outcome.

Boris might find his dream shortlived

 

[The Baker]

I thought it was the people who are sovereign

 

[Notch7]

I thought it was the people who are sovereign

Brexiterr MPs voted down the Brexit deal.

Perhaps 17.4 million leavers should blame the ERG that they havent got Brexit.

 

[ellal]

Well Er

We do live In a parliamentary democracy

Really?

If parliament is able to be arbitrarily suspended, then what type of democracy do you think we actually live in?

"leading Tory Eurosceptic Jacob Rees-Mogg, a supporter of Mr Johnson, said that suspending parliament so that MPs cannot stop the next prime minister forcing through a no-deal Brexit "may have to happen".

Are quitters happy for the UK to set sail on it's 'magical mystery tour' with no active ruling body?

 

[ellal]

I thought it was the people who are sovereign

Nope, we're merely 'subjects'...

A subject is someone "under the dominion of a monarch".
The subject has no say in how they are treated.

The UK has no written constitution, and thus our 'rights' are simply an unwritten "social contract"!

 

[JohnD]

I thought it was the people who are sovereign

Billericay says no.

 

[Notch7]

Nope, we're merely 'subjects'...

A subject is someone "under the dominion of a monarch".
The subject has no say in how they are treated.

The UK has no written constitution, and thus our 'rights' are simply an unwritten "social contract"!

none of which relates to reality, does it?

Can you give a meaningful example of how a subject has no say in how they are treated?

I believe the US has a written constitution, does it make it better?

 

[ellal]

none of which relates to reality, does it?

Can you give a meaningful example of how a subject has no say in how they are treated?

Indeed I can...

An example of how the state takes 'ownership' of you right from the start...

Linky

The phrase "In these circumstances the local authority is the institutional parent" says it all!

 

[Tigercubrider]

Nope, we're merely 'subjects'...

A subject is someone "under the dominion of a monarch".
The subject has no say in how they are treated.

The UK has no written constitution, and thus our 'rights' are simply an unwritten "social contract"!

Actually, we are citizens . A subject is another thing altogether

 

[ellal]

Actually, we are citizens . A subject is another thing altogether

If you could show us a link to a written document that pertains to us being citizens rather than subjects, then please feel free to do so...

(You won't be able to of course, because no such document exists - and just because it says 'citizen' in a passport it's meaningless!)

Sadly most people in the UK have no actual idea about their 'relationship' to the country that we live in!

 

[JohnD]

Some British subjects are British Citizens. Some British Subjects are not. Some people reading this forum may be neither. Even if they were born in the UK.

AFAIK there was no law making anyone a citizen until 1948/9

You may wish to refer to the British Nationality Act 1948