In the UK there is no such thing as a 'British Citizen'...
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https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/61
British Nationality Act 1981
"Acquisition by birth or adoption.
(1)A person born in the United Kingdom after commencement [F1, or in a qualifying territory on or after the appointed day,] shall be a British citizen if at the time of the birth his father or mother is—
(a)a British citizen; or
(b)settled in the United Kingdom [F2or that territory].
[F3(1A)A person born in the United Kingdom or a qualifying territory on or after the relevant day shall be a British citizen if at the time of the birth his father or mother is a member of the armed forces.]
(2)A new-born infant who, after commencement, is found abandoned in the United Kingdom [F4, or on or after the appointed day is found abandoned in a qualifying territory,] shall, unless the contrary is shown, be deemed for the purposes of subsection (1)—
(a)to have been born in the United Kingdom after commencement [F5or in that territory on or after the appointed day]; and
(b)to have been born to a parent who at the time of the birth was a British citizen or settled in the United Kingdom [F6or that territory].
(3)A person born in the United Kingdom after commencement who is not a British citizen by virtue of subsection (1) [F7, (1A)] or (2) shall be entitled to be registered as a British citizen if, while he is a minor—
(a)his father or mother becomes a British citizen or becomes settled in the United Kingdom; and
(b)an application is made for his registration as a British citizen.
[F8(3A)A person born in the United Kingdom on or after the relevant day who is not a British citizen by virtue of subsection (1), (1A) or (2) shall be entitled to be registered as a British citizen if, while he is a minor—
(a)his father or mother becomes a member of the armed forces; and
(b)an application is made for his registration as a British citizen]
(4)A person born in the United Kingdom after commencement who is not a British citizen by virtue of subsection (1) [F9, (1A)] or (2) shall be entitled, on an application for his registration as a British citizen made at any time after he has attained the age of ten years, to be registered as such a citizen if, as regards each of the first ten years of that person’s life, the number of days on which he was absent from the United Kingdom in that year does not exceed 90.
[F10(5)Where—
( a )any court in the United Kingdom [F11or, on or after the appointed day, any court in a qualifying territory] makes an order authorising the adoption of a minor who is not a British citizen; or
(b)a minor who is not a British citizen is adopted under a Convention adoption,
that minor shall, if the requirements of subsection (5A) are met, be a British citizen as from the date on which the order is made or the Convention adoption is effected, as the case may be [F12effected under the law of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom].
(5A)Those requirements are that on the date on which the order is made or the Convention adoption is effected (as the case may be)—
( a )the adopter or, in the case of a joint adoption, one of the adopters is a British citizen; and
(b)in a case within subsection (5)(b), the adopter or, in the case of a joint adoption, both of the adopters are habitually resident in the United Kingdom [F13or in a designated territory].]
(6)Where an order [F14or a Convention adoption]in consequence of which any person became a British citizen by virtue of subsection (5) ceases to have effect, whether on annulment or otherwise, the cesser shall not affect the status of that person as a British citizen.
(7)If in the special circumstances of any particular case the Secretary of State thinks fit, he may for the purposes of subsection (4) treat the person to whom the application relates as fulfilling the requirement specified in that subsection although, as regards any one or more of the first ten years of that person’s life, the number of days on which he was absent from the United Kingdom in that year or each of the years in question exceeds 90.
(8)In this section and elsewhere in this Act “settled” has the meaning given by section 50 F15"
British Nationality Act 1981
"Acquisition by birth or adoption.
(1)A person born in the United Kingdom after commencement [F1, or in a qualifying territory on or after the appointed day,] shall be a British citizen if at the time of the birth his father or mother is—
(a)a British citizen; or
(b)settled in the United Kingdom [F2or that territory].
[F3(1A)A person born in the United Kingdom or a qualifying territory on or after the relevant day shall be a British citizen if at the time of the birth his father or mother is a member of the armed forces.]
(2)A new-born infant who, after commencement, is found abandoned in the United Kingdom [F4, or on or after the appointed day is found abandoned in a qualifying territory,] shall, unless the contrary is shown, be deemed for the purposes of subsection (1)—
(a)to have been born in the United Kingdom after commencement [F5or in that territory on or after the appointed day]; and
(b)to have been born to a parent who at the time of the birth was a British citizen or settled in the United Kingdom [F6or that territory].
(3)A person born in the United Kingdom after commencement who is not a British citizen by virtue of subsection (1) [F7, (1A)] or (2) shall be entitled to be registered as a British citizen if, while he is a minor—
(a)his father or mother becomes a British citizen or becomes settled in the United Kingdom; and
(b)an application is made for his registration as a British citizen.
[F8(3A)A person born in the United Kingdom on or after the relevant day who is not a British citizen by virtue of subsection (1), (1A) or (2) shall be entitled to be registered as a British citizen if, while he is a minor—
(a)his father or mother becomes a member of the armed forces; and
(b)an application is made for his registration as a British citizen]
(4)A person born in the United Kingdom after commencement who is not a British citizen by virtue of subsection (1) [F9, (1A)] or (2) shall be entitled, on an application for his registration as a British citizen made at any time after he has attained the age of ten years, to be registered as such a citizen if, as regards each of the first ten years of that person’s life, the number of days on which he was absent from the United Kingdom in that year does not exceed 90.
[F10(5)Where—
( a )any court in the United Kingdom [F11or, on or after the appointed day, any court in a qualifying territory] makes an order authorising the adoption of a minor who is not a British citizen; or
(b)a minor who is not a British citizen is adopted under a Convention adoption,
that minor shall, if the requirements of subsection (5A) are met, be a British citizen as from the date on which the order is made or the Convention adoption is effected, as the case may be [F12effected under the law of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom].
(5A)Those requirements are that on the date on which the order is made or the Convention adoption is effected (as the case may be)—
( a )the adopter or, in the case of a joint adoption, one of the adopters is a British citizen; and
(b)in a case within subsection (5)(b), the adopter or, in the case of a joint adoption, both of the adopters are habitually resident in the United Kingdom [F13or in a designated territory].]
(6)Where an order [F14or a Convention adoption]in consequence of which any person became a British citizen by virtue of subsection (5) ceases to have effect, whether on annulment or otherwise, the cesser shall not affect the status of that person as a British citizen.
(7)If in the special circumstances of any particular case the Secretary of State thinks fit, he may for the purposes of subsection (4) treat the person to whom the application relates as fulfilling the requirement specified in that subsection although, as regards any one or more of the first ten years of that person’s life, the number of days on which he was absent from the United Kingdom in that year or each of the years in question exceeds 90.
(8)In this section and elsewhere in this Act “settled” has the meaning given by section 50 F15"
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You do talk some twaddle.
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Nope...
There is no written definition of a UK citizen, as it doesn't exist...
You are a subject of the monarch!
Thus the 'references' above are meaningless!
If you believe otherwise then prove it, or you can just shuffle off and join the rest of the sheeple
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Please show us the written definition of a British Subject.
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"Subject to the provisions of this section, every person born within the United Kingdom and Colonies after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by birth :"
What a load of baloney.
It is perfectly sensible for a birth to be registered, there is nothing sinister about it.
Its about following a sensible procedure to ensure a baby has rights and nothing to do with the state taking ownership of you.
Most developed countries have universal registration.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ort-to-a-better-life-so-why-cant-8735046.html
Having universal registration ensures a person has rights, not loses rights.
You have some very warped views on this.
If you live in a monarchy by default you are a 'subject', unless there is a written constitution that declares 'citizenship' as the legal definition of the relationship between a state and it's people...
The UK has no written constitution, therefore the notion of 'citizenship' is but a play on words
Could you show us a UK/British written constitution that would back up you claim that we are 'citizens'?
Could you then tell us why a birth certificate is known as a 'legal fiction'?
And whilst you are thinking about that, could you also tell us why any 'legal document' we may obtain throughout our lifetime remains the property of the state?
Do you really have to repeat yourself out of ignorance?
I have already given you the answer
Or do you not understand the definition of a 'monarchy' and it's relationship to the people whom it rules?
No wonder we're in such a mess when so many have no clue about where they stand!
You seem to be veering towards being a conpiracy theorist.
Any sensible person can follow the logic why its important for a state to register every birth.
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