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Thermo said:oh god youre starting to sound like someone else!
beat me to it. JB-90 doesn't have the same ring to it tho.Sponsored Links
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BAS will you pack it in cause you are beginning to sound worse than Joe, besides whose Lucious Lynda the moderator?
sounds seexxxxxy i wonder what she's wearing? oop's i mean no swearing I understand what you are saying about the west being a sort of employer to the third world but i'm talking more about mother earth being able to sustain such growth in processing, the output from our factories goes into our shops and we westerners consume like there's no tomorrow, just look at how much wastage of food went in the bin this christmas for example.Freddie said:
the factories work incessently to produce but is there any audit of how much produced doesn't actually get sold and goes past it's sell by date and has to be disposed of?
If the west didn't drive the world economy so hard then a more acceptable sharing, caring approach could be sought.
to go back to the essence of what i was speaking about it's the society we take so much for granted these days that blinkers us from the hardship of others and although it sustains us in the west at the moment eventually even we will start to feel the effects of too much demand and not enough resources to feed the demand, perhaps then something will be done? Unfortunately it will be too late for some by then!
as the human race i feel we are on a spiralling road to disaster without brakes.
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Kendor. The West is built upon the premise that oil is cheap and will last forever. There is a huge wake-up on the horizon.
A western economy can only grow by consuming more oil. When that cheap oil is no more (see the Russian gas thread) then the West will slip into recession and then into a depression that will never end.
The oil age is all but over.
Don't feel sorry for the rest of the world, we will join them in poverty very shortly.
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
joe
A western economy can only grow by consuming more oil. When that cheap oil is no more (see the Russian gas thread) then the West will slip into recession and then into a depression that will never end.
The oil age is all but over.
Don't feel sorry for the rest of the world, we will join them in poverty very shortly.
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
joe
Precisely Joe! Oil was one of the resources i was thinking of but also it's the manufacturing processes of other commodities that also wildly consumes the earths resources.joe-90 said:
If only we accepted a small downgrade in our lifestyles it may help?
I agree totally with Kendor and i agree with Joe, problem is it is already too late and beyond the place where it could be repaired.
How much can be salvaged will depend on when the rot stops as it is China and it's population which will tip us all into the oblivion maybe in my life time but definetly within this centuary, i am afraid the Earth is damaged beyond repair and your lifestyles will change so much very soon that will say now where the good old days
How much can be salvaged will depend on when the rot stops as it is China and it's population which will tip us all into the oblivion maybe in my life time but definetly within this centuary, i am afraid the Earth is damaged beyond repair and your lifestyles will change so much very soon that will say now where the good old days
Yes unfortunately you are probably correct in what you say, but until that day do we still have to live like the noble romans whilst others around us die in poverty? today is not too late to at least start to do repairs!Freddie said:
China and other countries will have to do their bit also by controlling their populations but it must be a co-ordinated plan with all countries mucking in together and just hope that you are wrong that we have passed the point of no return.
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Ahh you see you have now crossed the line with what you have just said Kendor.
Because no country can have any viable policy on anything if they dont know what the population is now or in 10 years time, so you see any country which is small and overcrowded and has an immigration policy that is completely out of control--then when the poo hits the fan whether it be a fuel crisis or a food crisis or anything, then that country will be devastated with all the worst things happening from civil unrest to complete social breakdown.
A country which knows its population etc will be able to plan and adjust, the UK? on this point a joke.
If you look on the planet geographically then that may be the case but rather than look at land mass to poulation ratio it must be more a factor of world population as a whole?Freddie said:
So although we are taking in some of the influx from other parts of the world we seem to still be able to sustain both ourselves and the influx without too much detriment to our accepted lifestyles in this country but overall looking at the big picture of the entire globe we are not sustaining the human population.
kendor said:
No you have put your PC blinkers on again Kendor--go read Joe's link it is spot on--i have been following this since a young boy in the early 1970's and it's all coming true what i was told then, and i could give you various examples. Britain unless it drops it's population is on a road to hell.
Spot on Thermo.
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