People smugglers

[Bodd]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...-five-from-afghanistan-inside-van/ar-BB18KcNQ


Home Secretary Priti Patel said: "We will not tolerate people smuggling in any form, and are doing all we can to tackle those responsible for this appalling trade.

"This was a reckless attempt to circumvent our border controls and anyone in doubt about the consequences of such actions should take note - you will be caught and put behind bars."


30 months; not long enough Priti.....

 

[SirGalahad]

Nearly 2 months old - your attempt at defelction Bodd? Try harder.

 

[Bodd]

Nearly 2 months old - your attempt at defelction Bodd? Try harder.

https://news.sky.com/story/essex-firefighters-rescue-three-men-trapped-in-a-tumble-dryer-12119354

 

[Bodd]

These horrible Euckers are more than likely walking our streets now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36921682

 

[transam]

In theory it is more difficult to police and secure a sea border than a land border

U cant put a fence up?

 

[Bodd]

In theory it is more difficult to police and secure a sea border than a land border

U cant put a fence up?

A Moat would be better>>>

 

[bernardgreen]

U cant put a fence up?

U can as HERE

 

[Boogerman]

The quickest and easiest way to tackle people smuggling is to make their business model unviable.
If the business model cannot be undermined, in the long term, tackling people smuggling will be a never ending task.

"Smuggling can be tackled: Past experience of OECD countries show that co-operation with transit and origin countries can be instrumental to tackle human smuggling. In the longer term, however, this may not be sufficient if we cannot undermine the business model of smugglers.

Smuggling demand can be lowered: For refugees, one of the only available options to curb demand seems to be, at least in the short term, to offer more – and quicker – resettlement options. For economic migrants, curbing demand would entail increasing both prevention and information campaigns and employment options in origin countries and opportunities for legal labour migration, notably in sectors which are structurally dependent on undocumented migrants. It would also require reinforcing controls and sanctions against the illegal employment of foreign workers.

Ending smuggling requires new medium and longer-term approaches to development programs and development assistance: countries should move towards development-led strategies to counter smuggling, adapt development programmes to serve those prone to illicit migration"

Migration Policy Debates © OECD n°9 December 2015

 

[Bodd]

Wow....... We should just open our doors to the whole 3rd world then..... Is that what you are saying.

 

[Boogerman]

Wow....... We should just open our doors to the whole 3rd world then..... Is that what you are saying.

No, that is not what I'm saying. It is your interpretation of the OECD best practice guide.
It undoubtedly states that law enforcement alone is insufficient, not working and an endless task.
Raising public opposition to the refugees is also dangerous and divisive, and probably counter-productive.
To combat people smuggling it is necessary to destroy their business model.


"Addressing the root causes Human smuggling has been framed as a criminal issue, but its causal roots are poverty and the aspiration for a better life. While smuggling is technically a transnational organised crime, in many regions or countries of origin it is neither always neither perceived as criminal nor is it stigmatised. This is particularly true in regions where the population is used to moving freely across borders and in pastoral societies, notably in West Africa (OECD/AfDB, forthcoming). Migrants do not see themselves as victims or as engaging in a criminal act and smugglers similarly do not feel that they are doing something illegal. Rather, they feel they are service providers for an unquenchable flow of aspirational migration. Therefore, migration, even when smuggling is involved, is at its core a development issue involving economic disparities and the challenges of providing sustainable livelihoods. Criminalisation of the act of smuggling migrants is necessary. However, law enforcement responses should be accompanied by strategies that address the root causes if the objective is to put an end to human smuggling."

 

[Bodd]

Anyone Caught entering the UK illegally should be sent back to the first country they entered and then apply for asylum to the UK.

This would should most people smuggling almost straight away.

 

[fillyboy]

No, that is not what I'm saying.

Yes it is.

 

[Brigadier]

Anyone Caught entering the UK illegally should be sent back to the first country they entered and then apply for asylum to the UK.

This would should most people smuggling almost straight away.

I doubt it.
Unless all resulting applications were granted, which would render "application" pointless ; you might as well have no border control at all then.

 

[Bodd]

I doubt it.
Unless all resulting applications were granted, which would render "application" pointless ; you might as well have no border control at all then.

If you knew after risking your life crossing the English channel and 5 grand down that you would be sent back to Turkey: You would think twice........ Would you not??

 

[Notch7]

If you knew after risking your life crossing the English channel and 5 grand down that you would be sent back to Turkey: You would think twice........ Would you not??

These people are desperate, they give their life savings to people smugglers who lie to them.

Some of those staying at the Farage hotel, had come from war zones and had family members killed in front of them. I saw an article of a female refugee, she had been raped in each country she crossed.


This argument that people deliberately choose to risk their life getting to the UK for an easy life is such an old trope.


Too many people on here dehumanise these refugees.
I understand that the UK doesn't want loads of refugees coming here.....but that's burying ones head in the sand. The problem doesn't go away, they have to go somewhere.