Pitbull savages woman's guide dog at train station

[ajstoneservices]

The owner will be traced and the dog destroyed.
The owner will face a court get his wrists slapped and banned from keeping dogs for a period of time.

The guide dog will get over the attack reasonably well, the owner wont. It must have been a terrifying experience all the worse for an un-sited person.

If you have any type of dog you have to accept they can at a time of their choosing attack another dog/animal or human being. You must do all you can to prevent that happening, socialise them, be in control of them at all times. Sadly all too often unsociable/irresponsible owners get/let their dogs get into trouble and in the end the dog always loses.

 

[noseall]

all the worse for an un-sited person.

A what?

 

[ajstoneservices]

We own "Daisy" because we chose not to let her die. We knew we could offer her a good home so took her in. I don't wonder the streets with her looking "hard" we live in sticks where we have a 3 acre field that has been fenced in with dog netting. If I lived in a town I may have made a different choice.



Edit: someone who noseall knows what I meant.

 

[Blasphemous]

I didn't realise we had as many dick heads on here.

 

[Norcon]

You mean the dick head that wrote this...................

The lad seemed to be doing as much as he could to get his dog to stop but it's clearly dangerous.

????

 

[jay1]

No so long as the conditions of the DD act 1990 are met. daisy was on her way to the RSPCA who would have put her to sleep had we not taken her in.

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• ajstoneservices
• 20 Nov 2009
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Daisy has a liking for heat sink paste.

she looks like a lovely dog mate.
Glad to hear she is with responsible owners now.Has anyone seen the video footage of what happend? I have and it seems like the guy just left the dog there and was busy doing something , the dog noticed the labrador and shot off fast, I think it was the guys fault as he should have kept hold of the lead at all times.

 

[gregers]

I didn't realise we had as many dick heads on here.

plz elaborate.

 

[Blasphemous]

I didn't realise we had as many dick heads on here.

plz elaborate.

gregers, I think you have said almost all of what I would have said. I shan't elaborate further.

 

[EddieM]

pitbull terriers are on the banned dog list, see here

 

[WDIK]

see here http://www.shaku1.com/index.html

 

[ajstoneservices]

pitbull terriers are on the banned dog list, see here

OK my no was too simplistic. Since Michael Howard's badly written & rushed through law the courts have tried to make sense of it.

Q. What is a pit bull terrier type dog
A. Section 1 and 4B of the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 relate to dogs of the type known as the pit bull terrier. The High Court has decided that for a dog to be a pit bull type, it must have a substantial number of the physical characteristics of a pit bull terrier. These characteristics are listed in a number of places, and probably the most comprehensive (and that generally relied on by Courts) is the American Dog Breeders Association's Basis of Conformation for the American Pit Bull Terrier. This is a functional standard which describes the ideal, and so the dog does not have to conform in every detail to be regarded as a pit bull type. DEFRA has produced guidance which summarises some of the physical aspects of a pit bull terrier (see 'DEFRA guidance on prohibited dogs' which can be accessed via the links page on this site)

Q. But I have a dog with a nice temperament. Surely this can't be regarded as a pit bull type
A. The High Court has ruled that the behaviour of a dog is relevant but not conclusive when determining whether a dog is a pit bull type

Q. Surely there is a DNA test that can be used
A. Not at present. In any event, the legal test is predominantly on the basis of physical conformation so it isn't just about the breeding but is about what the dog looks like.

Q. Doesn't the law just apply to pure bred pit bulls
A. No. Cross-breeds and mongrels could be regarded as pit bull types depending on their physical conformation.

Q. How does the prosecution prove their case
A. In a case under Section 1 the burden of proof is on the dog owner to prove that the dog isn't a pit bull type (but in a 4B case where the burden of proof will probably be on the Police to prove that your dog is a pit bull type). This reversal of the usual burden of proof in a Section 1 case has been challenged in the European Court, but has been found to be lawful. It is therefore very difficult to successfully defend a case. The evidence is likely to be given by experts.

Q. Can a pit bull type dog ever be lawfully owned
A. Owners were given a short period of time to have their dogs registered onto the Index of Exempted Dogs, but this form of voluntary registration ended in 1991. Since 1997 the law has been slightly relaxed, so that the Court may allow the dog to be registered (and all of the other conditions must be complied with) but only if the owner can prove that the dog would not constitute a danger to public safety. If this cannot be proven then the Court must order that the dog be destroyed.
Q. What are the conditions of owning a pit bull type apart from having the dog registered

A. The dog has to be neutered, microchipped, tattooed and insured. Also, no person shall:-
Breed, or breed from, the dog
Sell or exchange the dog or offer, advertise or expose the dog for sale or exchange
Make or offer to make a gift of the dog or advertise or expose the dog as a gift
Allow the dog to be in a public place without being muzzled and kept on a lead
Abandon the dog or allow it to stray

Q. What would happen if any of the conditions are breached after a dog has been registered
A.It is a criminal offence and in addition to penalties for the Defendant there is a presumption that the dog shall be destroyed

From the Kennel Club.

The temperaments of pit bull type dogs vary significantly since a dog's genetics (breed) has very little to do with its behaviour. Research shows that this is influenced most by the dog's owner, the environment it lives in and the training it is given. In the wrong hands, any breed of dog can be dangerous - the number of dog attacks by breeds other than those on the dangerous dogs list, illustrates this. Similarly, any dog that has been trained by its owner appropriately and sufficiently should not be outlawed or destroyed based on its breed alone.

BLAS
Don't understand your comments, of course you don't have to explain yourself but it would be helpful if you did.

 

[Mw Roofline]

Pitbulls. Designed for chavs and ****** who want to look hard. Also go well with caravan owners and lazy people with very small gardens.

 

[EddieM]

If the legislation, however flawed it is, and trust me I fully believe it would be flawed, were brought in and enforced in 1991, then there should be no pitbulls left in the country as it specifically was an offence to breed the animals, and 1991 was 18 years ago, way past the life expecancy of the animals.

Really, pragmatism has to rule, all dogs are potentially dangerous, people who leave small children alone in the presence of any dog are utterly irresponsible to say the least.

Me, personally I love dogs, but I will never fully trust one, they're a pack animal who will always try to be top dog if given a chance, it's absolutely true that dogs can sense fear in humans, the only way to treat dogs is to ensure that you are always the leader of the "pack".

There are loads of rules when it comes to dogs. Some of the really simply ones.

Never approach any animal from behind (well unless your thoughts are amorous)

Always stretch your hand out to a dog below its head height, this will stop it jumping at you.

If you smile at a dog, keep your mouth closed, baring teeth is aggressive.

Be firm, but not aggresive. The word here is assertion, you're in charge otherwise, there will be trouble.

If walking in a field which has cows, let the dog off the lead, unless you want to potentially be trampled, cows do not like dogs. especially if they have calves.

Most important however is assertion, you not the dog is in charge.

You all probably knew all that anyway.

 

[joe-90]

My girlfriend has got a dog that is frequently voted the most aggressive in the world.


http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/05/22/cocker-spaniel-aggressive.html