Plan B - Getting access and a dropped curb at an A road junction

[ProBodger]

Am having first looks at a Plan B property (see my other post about access rights for another property). It's a rural refurb, cosmetic condition looks ok (roof, walls, floors ok, no obvious damp) has two obvious issues: it only has pedestrian access from the road, and it's listed (grade 2) but not very "special".
On a decent sized plot, and has a large frontage on the boundary with the highway on two sides and there looks to be a small grassy space for a possible unofficial pull-in right along the front of the house, but that space is shallow (only looks like about 3m deep), the curb must be 6 or 7 inches and there's a public footpath running in front of that along the road.
Apart from right in front of the house, the front boundary is marked mostly by a hedge, with a small bit of fence either side of the house, something like this (pardon my cr*p drawing):

Questions:
- the house is just at the turn at a junction of two rural 40mph A roads. Is creating car access at a junction very likely to be blocked by highways?
- is listed status likely to affect opening up car access?

 

[mrrusty]

and it's listed (grade 2)

So, you are considering a property with right of way access rights problems, is listed, and has no vehicle access (and is very unlikely to get drop-curb permission so close to a junction).

you also said in the other thread "Just grateful we've got options to buy somewhere, unlike most of the youngsters we know.", from which I take it you are fairly young!

No matter what you have spent so far, this house sounds like a load of hassle and pain. Take it from someone at the other end of the age spectrum that there are better properties out there; vehicle access is valuable, not least because in the future you can have your own charge point (the way things are going), listed is not something to take on lightly because just about anything you do to refurb/improve requires permission, (if it's got carp 70's fittings AND is listed - guess what - you may have to keep the carp 70's fittings....) and I'm still not convinced you are not being walked over with the rights of way issue.

Also, you say it's a refurb and listed - have you got all the correct paperwork to say that the refurbs have been approved by planning for a listed building?

Sorry to be negative, but I'd give exactly the same advice to anyone considering the same. Unless it's stupidly cheap, there will be better properties out there because from what you've told us this one comes with hassles you don't need.

 

[securespark]

You will probably be unable to get access directly off the main road. It may be possible to do it from the lesser road.

I know someone who bought a listed property and he was stuck with the single glazed sash windows already installed. Also, some rubbish stuff had been fitted in the 60s and 70s and he was forced to rip it all out and do it in keeping with the style.

 

[Mottie]

So, you are considering a property with right of way access rights problems, is listed, and has no vehicle access (and is very unlikely to get drop-curb permission so close to a junction).

I read it that he's looking at two properties. The rights of access one and the listed one with no vehicular access.

 

[ProBodger]

Thanks all, this thread was just looking at a listed property with no vehicle access, and very cheap, basically a sanity check to see if there was some possible way for access from the road to be granted. My guess was there wasn't likely to be, and your replies and further googling around confirms that it would be very unlikely. A bit of asking around locally showed that the guy who lived had been there many years had a car spot a few minutes walk away that's not part of the sale. I don't think he wouldn't have had a serious go at getting access all the time he lived there if it were possible.
No car access and no nearby parking (or even just pausing) probably accounts for most of the cheapness.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

You can easily look up the listing online, it will tell you exactly what the listing is which tells you what you can and cannot do without getting listed building consent: https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Seems their website is not working quite right atm.

 

[mrrusty]

working for me....

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Sort of working OK for me now, albeit a bit clunky!