Plasplugs

[stealthwolf]

I was running low on brown 7mm rawlplugs so picked up some fancy looking plasplugs.

When I screwed the screw, the plasplug would rotate round with it. I could not advance the screw any further.

I found a couple of generic rawlplugs in the bottom of my toolbag and they worked perfectly.

Am I doing something wrong?

 

[Burnerman]

Maybe the hole was slightly too big, but chuck 'em all out and replace with the Fischer SX range......their flutes dig in to prevent rotation
.....and how sad is that
John

 

[stealthwolf]

Maybe the hole was slightly too big

May be true. I used a 7mm drill bit (bosch multi construction) as per box instructions but it did start to wobble as it drilled deeper into the brickwork.

 

[SammyInnit]

I personally won't touch the typical 'plug and screw' because they're rubbish.

Look at using hammerfix screw and plug types.

 

[London Mike 49]

Maybe the hole was slightly too big, but chuck 'em all out and replace with the Fischer SX range......their flutes dig in to prevent rotation
.....and how sad is that
John

Thanks for the heads up on the plugs John,I was going to buy some and was wondering what would be a good choice. In the past I have just bought the raw plugs and whilst they have done the job, I was curious as to what the Fischer ones were like to work with.
It's good to have a recommendation

Mike

 

[^woody^]

Hammer fix are complete crap

 

[SammyInnit]

Hammer fix are complete crap

Ok mate.

 

[stealthwolf]

Hammer fix are complete crap

Any reason why? What would you suggest instead?

 

[^woody^]

Hammerfix invariably spin, bend, loosen, don't tighten well and don't allow unscrewing (the screw just rotates), or the plastic sleeve does not knock in fully. And that is if you even remember to drill the hole deep enough in the first place.

They seem to rely on you having to get several things precise - hole size, hole depth, no dust in hole, countersunk hole, no removals. So are not as simple to use or in use as they claim.

Fischer plugs are well over-hyped and expensive for no reason and no benefit.

A simple plug in a correct size hole taking a correctly sized screw will be just as secure as anyother plastic plug.

I'll always tend to use the cheapest brown or red plugs for most things, and for the past few years have used UNO plugs for softer materials, oversized holes, and plasterboard. For difficult materials a bit of glue on the plug always works.

Proper shield anchors or expansive bolts for heavier duty fixing.

Get your UNO plugs cheap from B&M Bargains

 

[Astra99]

I only use Rawlplug "Uno", mainly the yellow and red plugs. In masonry I use 5mm for yellow and 6mm for red, but in Thermalite blocks the drill sizes may need to be a bit smaller. Experience tells me that if you DON'T need to tap the final 3-4mm of plug in with a hammer, the hole is probably too big!

 

[big-all]

in general if a hole enlarges a bit and wont grip the plug then cut a plug into 1/2 or 1/4 and assist into the hole with the full plug at the same time or knock into the central hole so when the screw enters the plug expands enough to grip the sides
you can also use matchsticks lolly stick slithers or splinters off wood to pad out the hole

 

[mattylad]

This has been discussed before on here.

If the drill bit wobbles and enlarges the hole a little use something to pad it out around the plug.
I use cocktail sticks (they are easy to insert and snap off) or perhaps use a quick setting glu such as sticks like nails etc. A little squirt into the hole then the plug should result in a good bond once set.

 

[big-all]

This has been discussed before on here.

If the drill bit wobbles and enlarges the hole a little use something to pad it out around the plug.
I use cocktail sticks (they are easy to insert and snap off) or perhaps use a quick setting glu such as sticks like nails etc. A little squirt into the hole then the plug should result in a good bond once set.

yes well discussed
cocktail sticks are a good choice often easier to cut in half with the pointy end into the space tapped in

 

[London Mike 49]

The other day I had to use a cable tie to help the plug grip , and I must say that out of all the methods I've tried this has to be one of the best.
You can get the ties in different sizes to suit the hole, win , win

Mike

 

[^woody^]

The other day I had to use a cable tie to help the plug grip , and I must say that out of all the methods I've tried this has to be one of the best.
You can get the ties in different sizes to suit the hole, win , win

Mike

How do you get the pliers in to tighten it?