President JD Vance

[blup]

go on tell us half dozen foreign affairs he done good in and was successful .
Shall i start with the absolute shambles of Afghanistan withdrawal and the 13 dead service personnel

He's been very supportive in he middle east conflict with arms etc, whilst also pursuing/holding open any prospects of peace. He has worked with Iran to ensure a third world war doesn't break out. He's criticised for the withdrawal in Afhgan but IIRC the foreign secretary remained on holiday while it was all happening. The truth is we never controlled that country, we only controlled our bases and government strongholds so it was inevitable that the tallyban would "take back control" sooner or later. Trumpy blathers on about not starting wars, ending one must fall within the same category

 

[gas112]

He's been very supportive in he middle east conflict with arms etc, whilst also pursuing/holding open any prospects of peace. He has worked with Iran to ensure a third world war doesn't break out. He's criticised for the withdrawal in Afhgan but IIRC the foreign secretary remained on holiday while it was all happening. The truth is we never controlled that country, we only controlled our bases and government strongholds so it was inevitable that the tallyban would "take back control" sooner or later. Trumpy blathers on about not starting wars, ending one must fall within the same category

So basically he has helped kill thousands of innocent women and children .

 

[gas112]

Interesting you pick on the Afghanistan withdrawal.

Know much about why it happened the way it did ?

Yep a lot more than you do so before you even mention Trump read up on it first

 

[Notch7]

Yep a lot more than you do so before you even mention Trump read up on it first

Trumps surrender deal with the Taliban is the cause of the failure.

US general says Afghanistan collapse rooted in Trump-Taliban deal​

Head of US Central Command says collapse of the Afghan government can be traced to US troop withdrawal deal

US general says Afghanistan collapse rooted in Trump-Taliban deal

Top general says collapse of the Afghan government can be traced to US troop withdrawal deal.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[blup]

So basically he has helped kill thousands of innocent women and children .

They both have, as did Bush, but Clinton missed an opportunity to take out OBL in the 90's which might have stopped a lot of this happening.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Yep a lot more than you do so before you even mention Trump read up on it first

You're sure about that ?

 

[JohnD]

They both have, as did Bush, but Clinton missed an opportunity to take out OBL in the 90's which might have stopped a lot of this happening.

Are you of the opinion that killing people brings peace and harmony?

 

[blup]

Are you of the opinion that killing people brings peace and harmony?

Difficult to say, if you do it's difficult to know what would have happened if you didn't, if you don't, likewise. Pootin is a good example, he generally a rational player unlike the przghovin fellow