Price of a Rewire

[topgazza]

Yes Super and thanks.

Cost of adding cat 5 to every room including network sockets, £15. Indeedy, if you want to add a hub, no lets say a router for say, 10 ports, £80-£100. Just need the PC/server which can be the main PC in the house or a standalone dedicated server. If the latter it would be £600. So you're talking about a £1000 tops unless you get greedy. Peanuts!

Cat 5 could carry the Sky/TV signals, data for network, lighting and power management instructions(if required), Broadband, music. The lot. If the homeowner didn't want to use them then no prob but at least they are there. But no. We are as thick as pigs s**t in this country. We put one, possibly 2 TV sockets in a house and bingo, thats your lot in the way of integrated technology. People trail cables, telephone extension leads. If you want another phone upstairs they drill holes in your wall and run cable around the outside of your house. Philistines.

 

[AdamW]

Yes, but what countries install all this as standard in non high-end houses? If I were building my own house, or planning a rewire, I would include miles and miles of Cat-5, have a rack installed in the cupboard under the stairs, and would ensure all cable and satellite leads were buried (as I have done in my current place). But the worldwide prevalence of wireless technologies indicates that we are not alone in our non-cat-5'd houses.

 

[topgazza]

Talking to network consultants, I work for Sun Microsystems so most of my working day is this sort of stuff, its a moot point. Wireless is Ok for some things such as PC connection, phone and general light use but for heavy duty data rates at good enough quality for video etc you still can't beat a piece of wire. The continuaty of service is certain without drops in connection qualityand service. It will remain that way for the foreseeable future as well

If only the reason for the non installation was down to nice builders deciding to wait until wirless has developed far enough for it to be toataly reliable. Whats that pink thing flying past......?

Its really down to the fact that they are not required to do it. Make it a building requirement and they would have to do it. In California most new houses being built have it. The cost is so low at the point of build its just not a problem. Parts of Scandinavia, Germany, Japan are all starting to introduce it. Its becoming a selling point as well. Its a good DIY task as well, certainly in houses with floorboards and cavity walls where damage and effort is minimised. Just needs a wider range of products to make use of it. Quite a few specialists around but of course its expensive. Hi Fis, TVs, DVDs, phone are built with netork connections but very few and at the high end. One day..............

 

[AdamW]

My DVD player has a network connection: means I can play streamed media off the internet or off any PC on my network. The idea is you set up a server like a big video jukebox, put all your DVDs on it.

Tis cool.

 

[topgazza]

Very cool indeed. You can also buy wirless devices that sit on your hi fi or cinema system and you can use your PC as an audio jukebox transmitting MP3 to your sound system. Its a half way house but a very good one.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I work for Sun Microsystems ........

You have my deepest sympathy.

Good luck.

 

[topgazza]

 

[AdamW]

Last time I checked Sun were in the lead on the SETI@home scoreboard... although perhaps that means they aren't being used enough for their real jobs, so they just run SETI on them

 

[topgazza]

Thats all we do. Look for alien life forms. I think I've hit the jackpot on this forum

 

[dw3101]

Sun Microsystems would be a good company to work for..

Lots of money in unix / solaris..

Ill stick with Intel Platforms though. Active Directory anyday..

+ I dont think sat tv over cat 5/6 is quite here yet.

David

 

[topgazza]

You can't beat a good Wintel platform. File sharing for all, even with people you've never heard of in Russia.......

Too many interested parties to make the all services on cat 5 happen just yet. You can technically pipe Sky around the house with Cat5 . Once they all integrate the DIY market and new house market will take off. Oh look another pig shaped thing ........

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Sun Microsystems would be a good company to work for..

Lots of money in unix / solaris..

http://marketwatch-cnet.com.com/2100-1010_3-5165213.html
http://www.itfacts.biz/index.php?id=P1314
http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/story/0,10801,90586,00.html

 

[topgazza]

HA HA HA

Old news is good news. I'm fairly neutral to be honest. I do get amused though that people seem to take pleasure when the only innovative compnay around takes a dip. Its as though they would actually prefer IBM and HP to hold a monopoly with Microsoft. I won't even discuss Dell as a serious player in the server market...please lets keep this sensible!

Its all good stuff and for sure Sun has made a mistake in ignoring the low end market. High end they are still leaders. Sun now use Opteron AMD chips for low end Linux and soon Solaris "lite". Hell, they took $1.9 billion dollars off Microsft in a legal settlement, have $17 billion dollars in cash. Just moved back into profit and have always generated a postive cash flow (just not profits hence heavy cost cuts-ouch)

Things flux and maintaining the peaks of 1999/2000 was never possible so the fall appears worse. We shall see, no ones immune. these are interesting times.

 

[dw3101]

I won't even discuss Dell as a serious player in the server market...please lets keep this sensible!

Absoulute Classic..

No person in there right mind uses a 19" rack mount desktop pc as a server!!

Ill stick to HP / Compaq DL & ML series.

David

 

[ban-all-sheds]

This really isn't the place for this, but

High end they are still leaders.