Pro Suicide

[motorbiking]

Its almost certainly run by people with:
1 - a misguided belief that people have a right to choose if they want to die, with no understanding that many people suffer depression, self loathing and other mental illnesses.
2 - they have some sort of Psychopathy, that means they get a kick out the ultimate control of another human.

@Odds I suspect (and hope) those cheering jump, suffered from long lasting PTSD once they witnessed the impact. I have a friend who is a police officer and they have described the "water melon" effect of a human jumper, particularly if they hit objects on the way down which at 10ft/s/s result in explosion. This person also had to deal with some poor sod in a wheelchair who had a jumper partially land on them.

 

[SirGalahad]

People die in poverty everyday - a slow death with no hope,

Its almost certainly run by people with:
1 - a misguided belief that people have a right to choose if they want to die, with no understanding that many people suffer depression, self loathing and other mental illnesses.
2 - they have some sort of Psychopathy, that means they get a kick out the ultimate control of another human.

@Odds I suspect (and hope) those cheering jump, suffered from long lasting PTSD once they witnessed the impact. I have a friend who is a police officer and they have described the "water melon" effect of a human jumper, particularly if they hit objects on the way down which at 10ft/s/s result in explosion. This person also had to deal with some poor sod in a wheelchair who had a jumper partially land on them.

Well where do these people with mental health problems turn to? The NHS waiting lists isn't reducing.

Hidden waits force more than three quarters of mental health patients to seek help from emergency services

Nearly a quarter of mental health patients (23%) wait more than 12 weeks to start treatment, due to lack of consultant psychiatrists according to research released by the Royal College of Psychiatrists for World Mental Health Day.

www.rcpsych.ac.uk

NHS waiting lists reach record levels, but what about the 'hidden waiting list'?

The latest NHS data shows that a record number of people are waiting for care. However, our new research indicates that there is also a hidden waiting list, and more needs to be done to understand what it's like for people trying to get referred.

www.healthwatch.co.uk

Dealing with Mental Health issues is dealing with the symptoms of trying to cope - what happens to the causes?

What happens to people living on the edge from day to day, meal to meal, cold and hungry?

So people turn to cheap and free alternatives.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Its almost certainly run by people with:
1 - a misguided belief that people have a right to choose if they want to die, with no understanding that many people suffer depression, self loathing and other mental illnesses.
2 - they have some sort of Psychopathy, that means they get a kick out the ultimate control of another human.

@Odds I suspect (and hope) those cheering jump, suffered from long lasting PTSD once they witnessed the impact. I have a friend who is a police officer and they have described the "water melon" effect of a human jumper, particularly if they hit objects on the way down which at 10ft/s/s result in explosion. This person also had to deal with some poor sod in a wheelchair who had a jumper partially land on them.

People do have a right to choose if they want to die. You might frame it as being misguided and in many cases it no doubt will be. Nevertheless if someone decides today 'that's it, I've had enough' then it's their choice to say bye bye, see you on the other side.

No?

 

[Roy Bloom]

Its almost certainly run by people with:
1 - a misguided belief that people have a right to choose if they want to die, with no understanding that many people suffer depression, self loathing and other mental illnesses.
2 - they have some sort of Psychopathy, that means they get a kick out the ultimate control of another human.

@Odds I suspect (and hope) those cheering jump, suffered from long lasting PTSD once they witnessed the impact. I have a friend who is a police officer and they have described the "water melon" effect of a human jumper, particularly if they hit objects on the way down which at 10ft/s/s result in explosion. This person also had to deal with some poor sod in a wheelchair who had a jumper partially land on them.

As a youngster, I witnessesd an accident where someone fell from the top of a fifteen storey building.
There was no 'explosion', nor any 'water melon' effect.

Unfortunately, I didn't know then what I know now, and ensuring the airway was free (and administering other first aid) could possibly have saved them from further injury. Unfortunately, no-one else offered any first aid until the ambulance arrived.

I suspect that 'hitting other objects on the way down' will probably reduce the terminal velocity.

 

[motorbiking]

People do have a right to choose if they want to die. You might frame it as being misguided and in many cases it no doubt will be. Nevertheless if someone decides today 'that's it, I've had enough' then it's their choice to say bye bye, see you on the other side.

No?

Yes I agree - the context was the whole sentence.

 

[motorbiking]

As a youngster, I witnessesd an accident where someone fell from the top of a fifteen storey building.
There was no 'explosion', nor any 'water melon' effect.

Unfortunately, I didn't know then what I know now, and ensuring the airway was free (and administering other first aid) could possibly have saved them from further injury. Unfortunately, no-one else offered any first aid until the ambulance arrived.

I suspect that 'hitting other objects on the way down' will probably reduce the terminal velocity.

Without getting macabre - it's all in the physics and depends entirely what you hit. A person falling from a 150ft (roughly 15 stories) is going hit the ground at 66mph, roughly 4 tons of force if the surface is hard (4 times more than is needed to break a human skull) - if they hit concrete it's generally fatal from 30ft or more. If they hit something softer then they have much more time to decelerate. There were plenty of photos of the poor sods who jumped from 9/11 and while they would have accelerated to terminal velocity, there wasn't much left to shovel up when they hit the ground.

Unless your chap hit something very soft or had his fall broken, his injuries would be incompatible with life. That is not to say death is instant and agonal breathing can sometimes look like a person if fighting for life that has already been lost. its a reflex.

 

[opps]

I haven't read all of the replies, but if someone that I cared about was insistent on topping themself, I would hope that they would find the path of least resistance. I would hate to see a friend that fluffed it and spent the rest of their life regretting it whilst they got to a stage where someone has to wipe their behind.

A friend was recently diagnosed with terminal tongue cancer. He went through the initial stages of treatment. He told me that he planned to end things.

I did visit his flat couple of months ago (his mobile phone and landline number were no longer active). There were loads of Amazon repeat orders sitting outside the door to his flat.

He didn't need a website to help him, I am pretty certain that he was smart enough to ensure that he would not be salvageable.

I respect his choice. I miss his company, but respect his right to terminate his pain.

 

[motorbiking]

absolutely - ending your life due to terminal illness, is entirely different to a lonely/troubled teen being talked in to suicide.

 

[fillyboy]

I haven't read all of the replies, but if someone that I cared about was insistent on topping themself, I would hope that they would find the path of least resistance. I would hate to see a friend that fluffed it and spent the rest of their life regretting it whilst they got to a stage where someone has to wipe their behind.

A friend was recently diagnosed with terminal tongue cancer. He went through the initial stages of treatment. He told me that he planned to end things.

I did visit his flat couple of months ago (his mobile phone and landline number were no longer active). There were loads of Amazon repeat orders sitting outside the door to his flat.

He didn't need a website to help him, I am pretty certain that he was smart enough to ensure that he would not be salvageable.

I respect his choice. I miss his company, but respect his right to terminate his pain.

Respect.

 

[scbk]

absolutely - ending your life due to terminal illness, is entirely different to a lonely/troubled teen being talked in to suicide.

Being alive is a terminal illness, we're all going to croak it at some point. I'm sure there's people with depression who live a much worse life than someone riddled with cancer.

I think suicide is too much of a taboo subject, people try to brush it under the carpet like it doesn't exist. I'm sure people have topped themselves since the dawn of time.


I've had a read through some of the threads, there was a lengthy one discussing gas masks and what inert gas to hook up, where to buy it etc.
One of the regular posters stopped replying to the thread after a while.......

 

[transam]

a good while back down this way there was some bloke who kicked off and locked his self into his house shouting about threatening to kill his self
It was on a small estate / cul de sac

Plod ect shut the road down for couple of hours at about 5 pm people coming home from work could not get to there house

Should have rung the bloke and told him to get on with it as people are trying to get into there house to have there tea ffs

 

[Odds]

A pro-suicide forum has restricted access to users in the UK following pressure from the online regulator.

Following an investigation by BBC News, the UK regulator Ofcom now says it has contacted administrators for the site, thought to be based in the US. The forum can now only be viewed by UK users already signed up as members.

a step in the right [email protected]

 

[Roy Bloom]

A pro-suicide forum has restricted access to users in the UK following pressure from the online regulator.

Following an investigation by BBC News, the UK regulator Ofcom now says it has contacted administrators for the site, thought to be based in the US. The forum can now only be viewed by UK users already signed up as members.

a step in the right [email protected]

I assume that is easily circumnavigated with a vpn.

 

[Odds]

I assume that is easily circumnavigated with a vpn.

Quite possible - however, if a registered member is required to provide an address and phone number then it wouldn't matter, would it?

 

[Roy Bloom]

Quite possible - however, if a registered member is required to provide an address and phone number then it wouldn't matter, would it?

No, as long as the address and phone number are genuine. Do they verify the address or the phone number, by phoning the applicant?
By verifying through other means?
I suspect not.