Radiators from Bestheating.com - anyone got any experience ?

[RandomGrinch]

As far as BTU's against Watts is concerned, it's the same as pints against litres. They are both measurements of the same thing, it's just one is, I guess, imperial, the other is metric.

Sorry for the digression, but the science tickles me!

Technically, BTU and Watts measure different quantities - BTU is a measurement of energy, whereas Watts are a measurement of power - i.e. energy divided by a unit of time - specifically 1 Joule / second.

What is listed as BTU on these companies websites, should really have the units BTU/h.

And the interesting bit..
The definition of a BTU, is the amount of energy required to raise the temperature of 1lb of water, by 1 degree F.
This turns out to be just over 1000J (1055J).
A BTU is almost metric anyway!
The only difference, whereas Watts are Joules per second - to derive power, BTUs are usually divided by hours.

Hence...
1 Watt approximates 1/1000 of a BTU x 60 x 60
1W approximates 3.6 BTU/h ( actually 3.41BTU/h).

Anyway, I find it interesting!

 

[shd1970]

Not with that model specifically no, I have installed lots and lots of different types of columns though, some exactly the same design. The ones you are suggested are probably one of the better columns to go for (traditional multi piped columns with air gaps) - their design is more 60/40 radiation/convection as far as their heat profile is concerned.

As far as BTU's against Watts is concerned, it's the same as pints against litres really. They are both measurements of the same thing, it's just one is, I guess, imperial, the other is metric.

Heat loss calculator concerns themselves with some basic standards, over and above the measurements input but all in all they are getting better.

All I can say though is that columns aren't as efficient at space heating as convection rads are therefore they usually take more overall energy to make a given sized space warm enough purely as they take longer to heat the space than a normal convecting rad of the same output would.

thanks @Madrab
so when you mention a normal convecting radiator, you mean a type 11, 21 or 22 type of thing ?

 

[shd1970]

Sorry for the digression, but the science tickles me!

Technically, BTU and Watts measure different quantities - BTU is a measurement of energy, whereas Watts are a measurement of power - i.e. energy divided by a unit of time - specifically 1 Joule / second.

What is listed as BTU on these companies websites, should really have the units BTU/h.

And the interesting bit..
The definition of a BTU, is the amount of energy required to raise the temperature of 1lb of water, by 1 degree F.
This turns out to be just over 1000J (1055J).
A BTU is almost metric anyway!
The only difference, whereas Watts are Joules per second - to derive power, BTUs are usually divided by hours.

Hence...
1 Watt approximates 1/1000 of a BTU x 60 x 60
1W approximates 3.6 BTU/h ( actually 3.41BTU/h).

Anyway, I find it interesting!

@RandomGrinch - thanks for your post although you lost me fairly early on there my friend

 

[Madrab]

thanks @Madrab
so when you mention a normal convecting radiator, you mean a type 11, 21 or 22 type of thing ?

Yes, classic convectors are - Type 11/21/22 - K1/P+/K2

 

[Mjharp]

Just an fyi we bought a milano aruba in 2022, paint started lifting / cracking along the top after first winter of use, got even worse the next year so recently got in touch with best heating and to be fair they’ve sent out a replacement with zero quibbles.

I’m really hoping it was a manufacturing defect but I’m half expecting a repeat performance…

Time will tell!

 

[Madrab]

to be fair they’ve sent out a replacement with zero quibbles

If they did it with zero quibbles that then it would usually be an manufacturing issue and they have seen lots of them, so there's no point arguing.

I hear more and more about Milano stuff and it's isn't recommendations unfortunately

 

[Tetrarch]

Update

I have successfully had my faulty Milano Aruba's replaced

Bestheating did honour their warranty but I had to jump through a few hoops. Despite the failure being a blatantly obvious paint finish failure, we had a multi-message back-and-forth about the details of my install including invoice and the exact inhibitor used

Whilst finally getting replacements this does raise the question of a DIY install and whether this would invalidate any claim under warranty.

Regards

Tet

 

[shd1970]

sorry for the delay in replying all
i gave up waiting for bestheating so decided to go for stelrad
have to say, the quality looks very good and the dialog was good also