Recommendations of builder to do "shell" loft conv
- Thread starter ASM
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Looking at the language from your postings it seems that you want to be in control of the job, i.e. buying the materials, dealing with B.C., dealing with differing trades etc.
This may flag-up as a warning to a lot of builders who are not happy to be restricted to the kind of building work that you are expecting. It almost seems as if you want a nodding agreeing laccy that is happy to be flogged whilst you do the whipping, as it were.
You have got to ask yourself that, in times of austerity, recession, credit crunch, high prices, low wages etc, why are builders refusing to work for you???
This may flag-up as a warning to a lot of builders who are not happy to be restricted to the kind of building work that you are expecting. It almost seems as if you want a nodding agreeing laccy that is happy to be flogged whilst you do the whipping, as it were.
You have got to ask yourself that, in times of austerity, recession, credit crunch, high prices, low wages etc, why are builders refusing to work for you???
Of course I want to be in control. This is MY house. One that I worked very hard for.
I don't particulary want to by materials but when "reputable" builders are charging my £3000 for steel I know I can get for £1k and £400 for velux windows I know I can get for £250. Of course I am going to want to buy my own materials.
I was under the impression that the building trade was a service industry.
I am a paying customer so it baffles me that you use the phrase:
"This may flag-up as a warning to a lot of builders who are not happy to be restricted to the kind of building work that you are expecting."
As the one paying I would have thought that is exactly what they should be doing...
As for your nodding laccy nonsence, frankly I don't even feel it warrants a response.
You are right about one point though, I have asked myself why I found it hard to find a builder and the answer arrived at my door a few hours ago, it was a very nice Kiwi builder who summed it up nicely by saying "there are still plenty of suckers out there with plenty of money willing to pay".
I guess I'm just not one of them.
P.S.
Just to be clear, no builder has refused to work with me. I have refused to employ them.
I don't particulary want to by materials but when "reputable" builders are charging my £3000 for steel I know I can get for £1k and £400 for velux windows I know I can get for £250. Of course I am going to want to buy my own materials.
I was under the impression that the building trade was a service industry.
I am a paying customer so it baffles me that you use the phrase:
"This may flag-up as a warning to a lot of builders who are not happy to be restricted to the kind of building work that you are expecting."
As the one paying I would have thought that is exactly what they should be doing...
As for your nodding laccy nonsence, frankly I don't even feel it warrants a response.
You are right about one point though, I have asked myself why I found it hard to find a builder and the answer arrived at my door a few hours ago, it was a very nice Kiwi builder who summed it up nicely by saying "there are still plenty of suckers out there with plenty of money willing to pay".
I guess I'm just not one of them.
P.S.
Just to be clear, no builder has refused to work with me. I have refused to employ them.
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hotrod
No, that's not what I said. The reason you are having difficulties getting a builder to take the job on is because you have sourced some of the materials and this complicates the contractual liability. Who has measured up for the steels, windows and doors?
How do you know they were charging you £3000 for the steel? That's a huge difference. Have you had a detailed quotation for materials only? Are you sure you're comparing like for like? Can you post up the exact specification for the steelwork? Thanks
Let us know how you get on ASM, I'm looking to do a fairly similar thing with our house at some point, get it structurally converted first, with minimal disruption to the family, then gradually work on the rest of it myself over the following year....not 'skimming the cream' lol, just the slow and steady gradual way I like to do things lol.
Don't think it'll be impossible to find somebody to do it for you, just difficult. From my (limited) experience, I've always found it much much trickier to get somebody in to do parts of a job, or a custom job, than it is to just pay full whack for a 'package'.
Don't think it'll be impossible to find somebody to do it for you, just difficult. From my (limited) experience, I've always found it much much trickier to get somebody in to do parts of a job, or a custom job, than it is to just pay full whack for a 'package'.
Saying that, I'd probably leave the Steel buying to the builder.
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hotrod
Come, come, ASM don't be rude we've answered your questions, be polite and answer ours':-
Indus has also asked you the same question three times now:-
Come on, help us to help you .
How do you know they were charging you £3000 for the steel? That's a huge difference. Have you had a detailed quotation for materials only? Are you sure you're comparing like for like? Can you post up the exact specification for the steelwork? Thanks
Indus has also asked you the same question three times now:-
Come on, help us to help you
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H
hotrod
Is there any particular reason you've not answered my questions ASM? I can explain them if you're having difficulty understanding them.How do you know they were charging you £3000 for the steel? That's a huge difference. Have you had a detailed quotation for materials only? Are you sure you're comparing like for like? Can you post up the exact specification for the steelwork? Thanks
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