Regs for Doors at top of Stairs

[RandomGrinch]

You're still not explaining what is unsafe about opening a door inwards from a staircase

Does it matter?
As FMT has already highlighted, 'the regs' suggest that a landing, with a width and length greater than the minimum width of the flight, should be provided at the top and bottom of a flight.
It makes sense that a door - either outward, or inward opening - would be on a landing.
However, as stated in the first pages of the approved documents - these provide 'guidance' for complying with the regulations; if you have a situation that doesn't meet the guidance, take it up with building control and see what they can suggest, or accept.
Why not post a plan of what you would like to acheive?

 

[A1Dan]

Thank you both, I guess I can envisage those situations. Probably looking at it too much from the point of view of a relatively agile younger person who isn't carrying a tray!

 

[A1Dan]

Does it matter?
As FMT has already highlighted, 'the regs' suggest that a landing, with a width and length greater than the minimum width of the flight, should be provided at the top and bottom of a flight.
It makes sense that a door - either outward, or inward opening - would be on a landing.
However, as stated in the first pages of the approved documents - these provide 'guidance' for complying with the regulations; if you have a situation that doesn't meet the guidance, take it up with building control and see what they can suggest, or accept.
Why not post a plan of what you would like to acheive?

Good plan...

So it's a loft conversion, which only has around 80cm in the middle of the room with roughly 2m ceiling height (shown by grey dashed lines in the below). Originally my plan was to have the stairs as follows, with a landing at the top , and a perpendicular door opening into the room, which I think would be compliant with all regs:

But, on close measurement, it's going to be very touch and go as to whether a door will fit at all (unless you can get doors shorter than the standard 1981mm, but I've not seen any on sale, and not sure if they would be safe / practical / compliant anyway!).

So the new plan is to have the landing one step down from the rest of the room (shown with the black dashed lines), and the door opening non to that, leaving plenty of height clearance to fit it. I could actually get to about 400mm between the door and top step, but not really any more or the door is hitting the slope of the ceiling as it opens fully:

In many ways this design is actual preferable, as the whole staircase / door setup ends up taking up less space in the room. But there is the issue we've discussed about the lack of a full (750mm) landing on the stair-side of the door.

A third option could be to extend the lower level from the landing into a small area the room, with a step up inside the room, so the door remains and swings at the lower level, but this is less preferable from a practical / aesthetic point of view:

 

[A1Dan]

Or a 4th option that just occurred to me could be to have the door swing outwards, with a small lowered area / step within the bedroom, but this goes back to my initial confusion with the building regs... I could manage 400mm between the swing and the top step, but it seems that's only valid for the bottom of a staircase. I assume the gap from the door swing would nee to be "landing size" (ie 750mm) at the top?:

 

[RandomGrinch]

Any space for a door at the bottom of the stairs?

 

[A1Dan]

Any space for a door at the bottom of the stairs?

Don't think so, they come pretty much straight off a shared landing...