Remove/relocate double socket on light circuit?

[JohnD]

when a 13A socket is connected to a lighting circuit in a loft, it is very often so that a "wallwart" power supply (which only plugs into such a socket) can be used. Very often for a TV aerial distributor. Occasionally for an alarm, or other low-power accessories, such as a charger for a cordless tool

is also handy for a working lamp on a wanderlead

 

[JohnW2]

Why not jut change them to the old round pin socket & then it can't be used without the round pin plug? Or is that just too simple a solution?

A good solution for those (few) who are 'concerned' - but only workable if none of the OP's "low load applications" involve a 'wallwart' (power supply) that needs to be plugged into a 13A socket.

Kind Regards, John
Edit: too slow again!

 

[winston1]

Wallwart power supplies can be changed for conventional ones.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Wallwart power supplies can be changed for conventional ones.

They can, but they do not need to be.
Nobody’s going to do that just to please your version of reality.

Again, to remind you, and to clarify the rules for @MrCow .
Wiring regulations specifically permit the use of a BS1363 socket on a lighting circuit. Care needs to be taken in its use.

 

[bernardgreen]

Wallwart power supplies can be changed for conventional ones.

A few could be changed to a module with a mains cable but the selection of a suitable alternative would require some knowledge about output voltage, AC or DC polarity, current ( both maximum and minimum )

That still leaves this question :-

The alternative power module has a mains lead, how is this mains lead connected to the mains ?

 

[Taylortwocities]

Wallwart power supplies can be changed for conventional ones.

Then we have the issue of warranty for the product. Usually it is product+wall wart.
Maker isn’t going to be interested if you blow the product up after buying an eBay power supply.
Sorry Whiney, most of us live in the real world.

 

[winston1]

Again, to remind you, and to clarify the rules for @MrCow .
Wiring regulations specifically permit the use of a BS1363 socket on a lighting circuit. Care needs to be taken in its use.

You don’t need to remind me of one of the regs that do not make sense.
One day there will be an amendment that changes it. Until then let’s all use common sense.

 

[winston1]

Then we have the issue of warranty for the product. Usually it is product+wall wart.
Maker isn’t going to be interested if you blow the product up after buying an eBay power supply.
Sorry Whiney, most of us live in the real world.

No you don’t. The maker is not going to know. Anyway I have never known a power supply to blow up equipment. Modern switch mode supplies fail dead not over volting.

 

[winston1]

A few could be changed to a module with a mains cable but the selection of a suitable alternative would require some knowledge about output voltage, AC or DC polarity, current ( both maximum and minimum )

That still leaves this question :-

The alternative power module has a mains lead, how is this mains lead connected to the mains ?

All that information is provided with the power supply.

Change the socket to a suitable BS 546 one and fit the matching plug.

 

[bernardgreen]

Change the socket to a suitable BS 546 one and fit the matching plug.

And the fuse to protect cable will be where ?

All that information is provided with the power supply.

Which of course anyone can understand and make the correct decision

 

[bernardgreen]

No you don’t. The maker is not going to know. Anyway I have never known a power supply to blow up equipment. Modern switch mode supplies fail dead not over volting.

You must live in a small world of perfection

 

[Taylortwocities]

You don’t need to remind me of one of the regs that do not make sense.
One day there will be an amendment that changes it. Until then let’s all use common sense.

You are going to have to wait a very long time. But, as I have asked before - and because this issue seems to be such a big thing in your life - get yourself on the J/PEL64 committee and get the regs changed to your liking. (Good luck with that).
Things are how they are. You have a view, everybody else has a different one. We know what your view is, why on earth do you keep going on about it?

Don’t tell me it’s safety, right here you are encouraging DIYers (that’s who this forum is supposed to be for) to buy spurious power supplies and install strange sockets. That’s a whole pile of things to wrong.

 

[bernardgreen]

You don’t need to remind me of one of the regs that do not make sense.

And you don't need to remind us of an opinion that does not make sense.

 

[winston1]

And the fuse to protect cable will be where ?

In the 20th century probably no fuse, but the CU will have a MCB, probably 6 amp. The cable will be protected by that.

 

[Sureitsoff?]

All that information is provided with the power supply.

Change the socket to a suitable BS 546 one and fit the matching plug.

and how do you fit a BS546 plug to a moulded wal-wart psu? croc clips? or just accept that a standard 13a socket is ok on a lighting circuit