Render a brick house

[Eddman]

I have been looking into this a lot and i feel as though it does require planning permisison - even if you are not in a conservation area or listed building. I would like some views or comments regarding this.

It cannot be a similar appearance if you apply a smooth render of any colour over brickwork (unless you rebate the outlines of bricks!).

Even though it expressly says you cannot apply render if you are in a conservation area - but it does not expressly say you cannot if you are outside a conservation area!

Does anyone have experience of actually rendering without consent and getting contacted by an enforcement/planning officer about it?

Does anyone have any experience of being told they do need a planning application to render a brick property?

It is doing my head in with the number of 'official' (planninportal, council webistes) that just quotes the...

"the materials used in any exterior work (other than materials used in the construction of a conservatory) must be of a similar appearance to those used in the construction of the exterior of the existing dwellinghouse"

but then this clearly ,to me anyhow, clearly means that rendering a brick property definitely DOES require planning permission....

thanks for entertaining this discussion....again!

 

[Mottie]

Any others down your road have render or pebbledash?

 

[Eddman]

Any others down your road have render or pebbledash?

nope

 

[Mottie]

Up to you to set the trend then. Go on, be a pioneer!

 

[Eddman]

Up to you to set the trend then. Go on, be a pioneer!

but what about the regulations/planning policies?

 

[jeds]

Nobody can reassure you that Planning permission isn't required for rendering a brick house because it is. However, in 20 years of planning I have never come across anybody making an application to render (other than conservation areas and listed buildings) and I have never been asked to advise somebody having rendered and got a notice form the LPA. But, I couldn't advise you to do it.

 

[^woody^]

Render is permitted development, where permitted development rights exist

'Similar appearance' does not mean 'exactly the same'. Red painted render can be similar to red brickwork.

 

[Eddman]

Where does it say that rendering a property is permitted development please @^woody^

"I wouldn't consider that red render would be pd. You wouldn't have the same kind of detailing that brick provides and therefore I wouldn't consider that it would have a similar appearance overall" from a planning officer up here in North East (Newcastle City Council)

 

[^woody^]

Where does it say that rendering a property is permitted development please @^woody^

"I wouldn't consider that red render would be pd. You wouldn't have the same kind of detailing that brick provides and therefore I wouldn't consider that it would have a similar appearance overall" from a planning officer up here in North East (Newcastle City Council)

Whether render is of the "same appearance" or not can be subjective, but there have been recent cases (since the 2015 PD changes) where a completely different extension has been determined to match or harmonise with the main house and thus be similar, along with the more basic of what is "similar appearance" - an example is that smooth, even, UPVC is similar to more rough, textured painted timber.

Render is operational development and thus comes under planning control. This was determined by a precedent case back in the late 70's or early 80's IIRC.

Render falls under Schedule 2, Class A of the GPDO 1995.

 

[mrrusty]

Irrespective of the planning arguments, remember that render not only keeps water out, it also keeps it in. If there is any chance of interstitial condensation, you risk a damp wall. Damp bricks with air circulating outside will rapidly lose moisture through evaporation. Damp bricks with a rendered surface will not.