Replace ceiling light rose

[vapd]

What do I need to get to replace A with B? The block I have is not suitable as far as I can tell.

 

[Wayners]

Don't mix up the colours. People clump all the colours together and bang.
All wires in L are live switch wires.
All the wires in PL are permanent live wires
All wires in N are neutral...

I use wago and connect up. Put wago in a wago box. Push up through hole in ceiling or lift floorboard above. You just need the L and N plus earth from wago to light.

 

[vapd]

Cool, which type of wago box do I need? I'll be getting it on eBay (or similar)?

 

[blup]

Get three triple wagos 222, marking the conductors you are transferring over helps in remembering which wago they go into. Have you got an earth in the existing rose because the new fitting looks metallic.

 

[chivers67]

Something like this > https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/QFJB3.html

You could use one of these if you can get to the void above.
> https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_I...u_Index/Junction_Boxes/index.html#Ashley_J803

 

[pete01]

I prefer these instead of a wago box.

Ashley J804 Maintenance Free Junction Box 20A 4 Terminal | Hager (J804)

 

[vapd]

Get three triple wagos 222, marking the conductors you are transferring over helps in remembering which wago they go into. Have you got an earth in the existing rose because the new fitting looks metallic.

No earths on the lighting circuit in my flat at all. I've replaced the switch and ceiling light in the kitchen, pull switch in the bathroom, switch in the hall and ceiling light in the bedroom. No earths. The kitchen ceiling wires were not even colour coded, it is an old building. I'm aware earths are good but I do not believe it is likely to be fatal without them. And I cannot afford to get a rewire.

 

[flameport]

I'm aware earths are good but I do not believe it is likely to be fatal without them.

True if all of the light fittings and switches are class II, which usually means made of plastic, or with the inner connections entirely enclosed in insulating material.

However the light you intend to install is metal and clearly has an earth connection.
It cannot be installed to wiring which has no earth.

 

[vapd]

True if all of the light fittings and switches are class II, which usually means made of plastic, or with the inner connections entirely enclosed in insulating material.

However the light you intend to install is metal and clearly has an earth connection.
It cannot be installed to wiring which has no earth.

Ah, yes, I had a google.

 

[endecotp]

No earths on the lighting circuit in my flat at all. I've replaced the switch and ceiling light in the kitchen, pull switch in the bathroom, switch in the hall and ceiling light in the bedroom. No earths. The kitchen ceiling wires were not even colour coded, it is an old building. I'm aware earths are good but I do not believe it is likely to be fatal without them. And I cannot afford to get a rewire.

Are the wires in metal conduit?

 

[vapd]

Are the wires in metal conduit?

No

 

[Jurassicspark]

I'm aware earths are good but I do not believe it is likely to be fatal without them.

Wrong.

And I cannot afford to get a rewire.

But I'm sure you can afford to buy class II accessories instead.