Replace Drayton LP111 and thermostat with Nest

[andyneouk]

Hello all,

Im looking for some advice. I currently have a Drayton LP111 timer connected to my Vokera Linea compact boiler (no build in timer). I then also have a thermostat on the wall in another room. I am looking to replace both with the Nest heat link.

Ive been digging around on google but cant seem to find any info from someone who has done this before.

My boiler is the same as this (minus the built in timer):
https://photo.mybuilder.com/2_thumb/4600696_2bae5cd47f.jpg

Can someone give me some pointers on how to do this? any help much appreciated.

Thanks,
Andy

 

[stem]

Step 1 - Install the Heatlink

The Drayton LP111 connections are identified for you in the diagram below:



The wires need to be moved from the LP111 terminals, to the Heatlink terminals that carry out the same functions, and are identified for you below. 'N', 'L' and Com(mon') are the same for both, and 'on' at the LP111 corresponds to 'Call for Heat' at the Heatlink. [If your version of the Heatlink has terminals 4 5 & 6, for hot water control, there is nothing to connect to these]



If there is presently a link on the LP111 between 'L' and 'Com' you will need to reinstate it between 'L' and 'Common' at the Heatlink. Do not add one if there isn't one there now.

Step 2 - Decommission the existing thermostat

Because the Nest carries out the functions of the room thermostat, the old wired thermostat needs to be decommissioned to prevent it overriding the Nest. It can't simply be disconnected as this would leave the heating wiring 'open circuit' and it will not operate. The thermostat can be decommissioned in three ways, in order of preference, they are.

1. Find the origin of the thermostat cable and disconnect it. Then link the terminals where the two switching wires were connected to together

2. Remove the existing thermostat and replace it with a junction box, connect the two switching wires together and isolate the neutral (if there is one)

3. Leave the existing room thermostat in place and set it to the highest setting. (Or put both of the switching wires in 'L' terminal)

 

[andyneouk]

Thats brilliant. Thanks Stem. thats the process i had in my head, its good to know i was on the right lines. ill aim for option 1 and connect the switching wires for the thermostat at the boiler. i think i know where it appears. we just moved in to this house so we are discovering all sorts of weird and wonderful things haha.

 

[andyneouk]

OK today is the day I try and connect the nest. Here' h my wiring looks. Anything unusual or will I just follow your instructions?

 

[stem]

Unfortunately I am away at the moment and I can't see the photos too well on my phone. However if the photo with the fruit wallpaper is of the Drayton backplate with the link, and the thermostat backplate with the embossed wallpaper, then both are as I expected to see. The thermostat switching wires are in terminals 2 & 3.

 

[andyneouk]

Thanks again for getting back to me. I did as you instructed and all is working well. The only part I wasn't sure of was how to take the thermostat out of the equation so it's just turned up full at the moment. Can you give me more info on how to go about that? I'm guessing I connect the blue and brown wires (2 and 3 at thermostat) back at my main switch at the boiler? I think they are the crimped wires in one of my photos? How do I deal with the power that's going to the thermostat? Apologies if I'm asking daft questions or I'm misunderstanding. Ultimately I want to remove the thermostat as its unsightly where it is. I appreciate your help so far.

Andy.

 

[stem]

You can trace the switching wires in 2 & 3 back to their origin and remove them. Then where they came from, insert a wire link or connect their points of origin together as applicable. The 230V supply cable to the original thermostat can just be disconnected at both ends and removed.

 

[ASharif]

Step 1 - Install the Heatlink

The Drayton LP111 connections are identified for you in the diagram below:

View attachment 131623

The wires need to be moved from the LP111 terminals, to the Heatlink terminals that carry out the same functions, and are identified for you below. 'N', 'L' and Com(mon') are the same for both, and 'on' at the LP111 corresponds to 'Call for Heat' at the Heatlink. [If your version of the Heatlink has terminals 4 5 & 6, for hot water control, there is nothing to connect to these]

View attachment 131624

If there is presently a link on the LP111 between 'L' and 'Com' you will need to reinstate it between 'L' and 'Common' at the Heatlink. Do not add one if there isn't one there now.

Step 2 - Decommission the existing thermostat

Because the Nest carries out the functions of the room thermostat, the old wired thermostat needs to be decommissioned to prevent it overriding the Nest. It can't simply be disconnected as this would leave the heating wiring 'open circuit' and it will not operate. The thermostat can be decommissioned in three ways, in order of preference, they are.

1. Find the origin of the thermostat cable and disconnect it. Then link the terminals where the two switching wires were connected to together

2. Remove the existing thermostat and replace it with a junction box, connect the two switching wires together and isolate the neutral (if there is one)

3. Leave the existing room thermostat in place and set it to the highest setting. (Or put both of the switching wires in 'L' terminal)

Hi
I have the LP111 controlling the blower central heating and a thermostat attached to it, pictures attached . Can i replace it with
Want this to be fitted

Deal: Drayton Wiser Smart Thermostat Heating Control Heating Only - Works with Amazon Alexa, Google Home and IFTTT https://amzn.eu/d/4ImW6mT https://amzn.eu/d/4ImW6mT

Step 1 - Install the Heatlink

The Drayton LP111 connections are identified for you in the diagram below:

View attachment 131623

The wires need to be moved from the LP111 terminals, to the Heatlink terminals that carry out the same functions, and are identified for you below. 'N', 'L' and Com(mon') are the same for both, and 'on' at the LP111 corresponds to 'Call for Heat' at the Heatlink. [If your version of the Heatlink has terminals 4 5 & 6, for hot water control, there is nothing to connect to these]

View attachment 131624

If there is presently a link on the LP111 between 'L' and 'Com' you will need to reinstate it between 'L' and 'Common' at the Heatlink. Do not add one if there isn't one there now.

Step 2 - Decommission the existing thermostat

Because the Nest carries out the functions of the room thermostat, the old wired thermostat needs to be decommissioned to prevent it overriding the Nest. It can't simply be disconnected as this would leave the heating wiring 'open circuit' and it will not operate. The thermostat can be decommissioned in three ways, in order of preference, they are.

1. Find the origin of the thermostat cable and disconnect it. Then link the terminals where the two switching wires were connected to together

2. Remove the existing thermostat and replace it with a junction box, connect the two switching wires together and isolate the neutral (if there is one)

3. Leave the existing room thermostat in place and set it to the highest setting. (Or put both of the switching wires in 'L' terminal)

hi
I have my home air circulating central heating controlled by The LP111 and a thermostat , pictures attached . Can i replace it with this
Want this to be fitted

Deal: Drayton Wiser Smart Thermostat Heating Control Heating Only - Works with Amazon Alexa, Google Home and IFTTT https://amzn.eu/d/4ImW6mT https://amzn.eu/d/4ImW6mT

Step 1 - Install the Heatlink

The Drayton LP111 connections are identified for you in the diagram below:

View attachment 131623

The wires need to be moved from the LP111 terminals, to the Heatlink terminals that carry out the same functions, and are identified for you below. 'N', 'L' and Com(mon') are the same for both, and 'on' at the LP111 corresponds to 'Call for Heat' at the Heatlink. [If your version of the Heatlink has terminals 4 5 & 6, for hot water control, there is nothing to connect to these]

View attachment 131624

If there is presently a link on the LP111 between 'L' and 'Com' you will need to reinstate it between 'L' and 'Common' at the Heatlink. Do not add one if there isn't one there now.

Step 2 - Decommission the existing thermostat

Because the Nest carries out the functions of the room thermostat, the old wired thermostat needs to be decommissioned to prevent it overriding the Nest. It can't simply be disconnected as this would leave the heating wiring 'open circuit' and it will not operate. The thermostat can be decommissioned in three ways, in order of preference, they are.

1. Find the origin of the thermostat cable and disconnect it. Then link the terminals where the two switching wires were connected to together

2. Remove the existing thermostat and replace it with a junction box, connect the two switching wires together and isolate the neutral (if there is one)

3. Leave the existing room thermostat in place and set it to the highest setting. (Or put both of the switching wires in 'L' terminal)

hi
I have air circulation central heating controlled by LP111 and a thermostat attached home , pictures attached. Can i replace it with Drayton Wiser Smart thermostat heating control . If yes can you help me wire/install it .
Thank you

 

[Stuckinarut]

Hi
I have the LP111 controlling the blower central heating and a thermostat attached to it, pictures attached . Can i replace it with
Want this to be fitted

Deal: Drayton Wiser Smart Thermostat Heating Control Heating Only - Works with Amazon Alexa, Google Home and IFTTT https://amzn.eu/d/4ImW6mT https://amzn.eu/d/4ImW6mT

hi
I have my home air circulating central heating controlled by The LP111 and a thermostat , pictures attached . Can i replace it with this
Want this to be fitted

Deal: Drayton Wiser Smart Thermostat Heating Control Heating Only - Works with Amazon Alexa, Google Home and IFTTT https://amzn.eu/d/4ImW6mT https://amzn.eu/d/4ImW6mT

hi
I have air circulation central heating controlled by LP111 and a thermostat attached home , pictures attached. Can i replace it with Drayton Wiser Smart thermostat heating control . If yes can you help me wire/install it .
Thank you

I don’t see why not, however you have hijacked a 7 year old thread with a completely different setup.

 

[ASharif]

I don’t see why not, however you have hijacked a 7 year old thread with a completely different setup.

I am new to diynot.com . Can you help me wire it ?

 

[Stuckinarut]

I am new to diynot.com . Can you help me wire it ?

Being a Drayton single channel it should just be a case of swapping the fronts over with the backplate being industry standard. Connect existing thermostat wires together or set to maximum.