But the wire I cut to extend back to the alarm panel was one of the two inside the panel from the PCB going to the sounder "siren" itself. Unless there is a hidden wire also feeding the siren / speaker / call it what you will, there's no way it should make a noise. It is like cutting one lead to a moving coil speaker, it shouldn't sound. But it did, with no wires at all from the bell box connected to,the panel, so it must have been from the bell box internal battery as you say. I have to seal an insect entry via the bell box cable hole in the wall, so I will have a probe about to see how this could happen unless you have come across thi before? Cheers sparkymarka