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[fillyboy]

For a nurse?

Rubbish

Yes, you are talking rubbish, 50k is the starting pay for doctors, 34k is the average pay for nurses, as previously pointed out.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Yes, you are talking rubbish, 50k is the starting pay for doctors, 34k is the average pay for nurses, as previously pointed out.

Wrong. Again.

The 50k is the average doctors basic wage, not starting wage.

 

[Justin Passing]

For a nurse?

Rubbish

He meant doctors.

I know a few doctors. Juniors start down in the 30's last time I looked, but it gets to 50's quickly, with many on 80-100 ish then there's a jump.

If you get them going they'll readily moan about the stupid jump in marginal deductions, which is 60% between 100 and 125k, then it drops to 40% - mad. One of those is an anaesthetist, so he only works part time. 2 days a week, occasionally 3.. One earns over 250 by doing some private work - plastics, but not much.. Even though a lot of it is with NHS scanners & things in the NHS hospital. He pays something like 40k in insurance though!

A relative, consultant, moved to Oz and her pay nearly doubled. She tells of a colleague - plastics again, earning nearly Au$2m. (~£1m)

Nurses' pay must be in the news....
Yep here, £30 - 50k https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/63587909

So, train operatives should be on about £25k, right??! Bus drivers £26k because they have to steer as well....?????

 

[Pat ex]

You are comparing public with private. The garage would go out of business if its service was poor, whereas the NHS is a communist monolith, and therefore poor performance and labyrinthine complexity is to be expected. Think of all those non-jobs that have to be paid for.

It would be reasonable to expect a public (monolithic) body to be able to plan for longer term forward planning.

 

[Pat ex]

The problem appears to be that hard of thinking remainers like youself spout rubbish without checking the facts. Go on, be a devil, do a little research.

NHS England: £394 million more a week? - Full Fact

Spending on NHS England will have increased by £20.5 billion by 2023/24 compared to 2018/19. That doesn’t cover all health spending though, and of the money won’t come from a a “Brexit dividend”.

fullfact.org

Some Brexiteers make absurd, false and outrageous allegations without first checking the facts.
And then refuse to apologise after they've been proven wrong.

And I'm not just referring to Boris.

 

[Pat ex]

John, you should change your name to pat ex, you're equally as mental..

Methinks some is hurting after being asked to apologise for his absurd allegations, which were proven false and outrageous.

 

[Pat ex]

Countries ranked by Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people)

www.indexmundi.com

Thought this was interesting.
Is ethnicity relevant. ? Decide for yourselves

Someone desperately trying to link homicide rates to ethnicity.

Now I wonder what his assumption and motivation for making such off-topic causal influence is, especially in a thread about free speech.
Maybe he's a left-over from the 1700's with his white superiority theory.

He'd fit in well with the Met, or the London Fire Brigade, both of which have been exposed as being systemically racist.

 

[Odds]

the homeless have nowhere to go either.
Who do we take care of first?
Illegal immigrants or the homeless...

Can't we do both ?

This government can't do either one competently so i'm going to say, no.
Take your pick.

 

[Notch7]

The problem appears to be that hard of thinking remainers like youself spout rubbish without checking the facts. Go on, be a devil, do a little research.

NHS England: £394 million more a week? - Full Fact

Spending on NHS England will have increased by £20.5 billion by 2023/24 compared to 2018/19. That doesn’t cover all health spending though, and of the money won’t come from a a “Brexit dividend”.

fullfact.org

The problem appears to be brexers spouting rubbish before checking the facts.

Go on be a devil, do a little research….maybe starting with the IFS

 

[Notch7]

Anyway, they've got the extra 350 million a week, what's gone wrong

Oh look a Tory lying….that’s something you do see every day.

 

[Notch7]

My nieces partner is a nurse, he works quite a few double shifts and does agency work at weekends. He doesn't attend food banks. I don't know what he earns, he's quite secretive about that,.

Anecdotal evidence…,always biased.

Filly conveniently tries to claim nurses visiting food banks isn’t true.

it’s what the right do

 

[Notch7]

I understand that no matter how much money is 'thrown' at the NHS, it will never be enough

That is because Tories and their mates are siphoning off NHS money into lucrative private healthcare contracts for their mates.

“A dozen Tory MPs including Health Secretary Sajid Javid benefit from links to private health firms, we can reveal.

Our investigation comes as a bill is debated today which campaigners warn will further entrench private healthcare in the NHS”

Tory MPs including Sajid Javid cashing in from links to private health firms

EXCLUSIVE: Health Secretary Sajid Javid holds share options in a California tech firm that provides artificial intelligence software to the health sector, which Labour calls a “clear conflict of interest and breach of the ministerial code”

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[transam]

I must admit the streets are almost empty in some cities, where there are no immigrants

here is the rather lovely Pyongyang:

Any one living there has to have permission from Kim and co

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Anecdotal evidence…,always biased.

Filly conveniently tries to claim nurses visiting food banks isn’t true.

it’s what the right do

And he conveniently added the extra information about how much overtime worked.

The nurses I know, even with some overtime , don't live the lifestyle he describes.

 

[Pat ex]

Anecdotal evidence…,always biased.

Of course. No-one in their right mind would use anecdotal evidence that disproves their own argument.