Rightwing Backlash

[ellal]

Putin's Russia has now't to do wi' it.
Russia has never really been a democratic state.

Care to tell us when the UK had an elected party with the majority of the vote?

FPTP isn't exactly an endorsement of 'democracy' is it...

Along with an unelected head of state, an unelected second chamber and constant gerrymandering of electoral boundaries...

The events in Israel would be a better comparison.
Netanyahu is trying to supress the judiciary and keep his fat ass out of jail.
Demonstrations in Tel Aviv suggest he has a hard fight.

The tories are doing similar things in the UK when trying to circumvent the courts and threatening to abandon international law and human rights legislation...

And demonstrating is an interesting example...

The tories are trying to effectively ban protests with their latest draconian Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act...

So what was that you were saying about a 'democratic state'?

 

[Ihavenojob]

If anyone on here worked for a large company-and was known very well for working for that company, decided to make an inflammatory remark on social media that bought their employer into disrepute, would they expect to keep their job?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

To keep himself fit and would be at best mediocre if he didnt. People pay good money to keep themselves fit.
Rodney Marsh is someone youd pays your money to watch, can't say Linnekar was anything out of the ordinary.

He was a pocher. Not a very good footballer, he just knew when to poke his leg out.

 

[ellal]

If anyone on here worked for a large company-and was known very well for working for that company, decided to make an inflammatory remark on social media that bought their employer into disrepute, would they expect to keep their job?

Regardless of whether they would or would not keep their job, do you think it right that they are not allowed to express a personal view?

Because if someone 'expects' to lose their job, do you not consider that a form of censorship and curtailment of free speech?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

If anyone on here worked for a large company-and was known very well for working for that company, decided to make an inflammatory remark on social media that bought their employer into disrepute, would they expect to keep their job?

No

 

[Odds]

To keep himself fit and would be at best mediocre if he didnt. People pay good money to keep themselves fit.
Rodney Marsh is someone youd pays your money to watch, can't say Linnekar was anything out of the ordinary.

Do you recall why Rodney Marsh was canned by Sky?

 

[gant]

I'd forgotten, so looked it up, quite funny now given the time lapse, can see why it would be frowned on at the time.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

If anyone on here worked for a large company-and was known very well for working for that company, decided to make an inflammatory remark on social media that bought their employer into disrepute, would they expect to keep their job?

Even if you "expect" to lose your job, it's a sign of strength of character that you are able to speak out.

Once you become scared to say something, where does it go? Think whistle blowers too. If he had supported the Government statement would he have been pulled "off air". If not, then there is your double standards. Like what Lineker has said or not, regardless of how good or bad a footballer he was, he spoke out.

The right wingers are calling for his job for speaking out, but have never been the same when right wingers have spoken out, including on the bbc.

It's a sign of the BBC cowing to the right wing pressure of Government, and that is not good. It would not be good to cow to the left wing either, and I don't recall when it has done so, but the left haven't been in Government for a while so it means going back a bit.

But once the BBC becomes nothing but a propoganda machine for the Government it is not good for any of us. All it will be will be "what you are allowed to see and hear". Sounds a bit like Russia, China, North Korea to me.

 

[gant]

Hitchens had strong views on covid that didn't go down well with the BBC and found himself surplus to requirements.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Hitchens had strong views on covid that didn't go down well with the BBC and found himself surplus to requirements.

Did he have facts, or just opinions?

 

[Ihavenojob]

Because if someone 'expects' to lose their job, do you not consider that a form of censorship and curtailment of free speech?

No, it's called breaking the terms of your employment.

 

[Odds]

I'd forgotten, so looked it up, quite funny now given the time lapse, can see why it would be frowned on at the time.

It was one of the early warning signs of this 'Culture War'.
People really lost their lunch over his comment which should've been taken as a joke - as though Marshy was actually inferring the player (i think he was at Newcastle) was a rap***. Madness.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No, it's called breaking the terms of your employment.

Appears not to be in the case of Lineker.

He is a contractor not an employee so they have the right to terminate his contract for many more reasons than a nomal employee.

Or they gave him a poor contract. Who is at fault there?

 

[gant]

Did he have facts, or just opinions?

You mean he could be likened to Linnekar
Say so if that's what you think in stead of the charade of these question and answer sessions.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You mean he could be likened to Linnekar
Say so if that's what you think in stead of the charade of these question and answer sessions.

Sorry but I don't pander to you. (not sorry really)