Sad news day

[kirkgas]

my missus didnt hear about this and as i was describing it to her i felt really uncomfortable, how those poor poor people must have felt, firstly to lose a child then to make that journey, so sad, my heart goes out to them and their extended family who are suffering now, selfish yes i agree but i dont feel comfortable condeming them, they will go and be judged in a better place than this and are all now together again. (or so my Christian beliefs tell me, and i think i'm right in saying i'm still allowed to be a Christian without upsetting anyone in Britain)

 

[conny]

To do what they have done takes bravery not selfishness.
They felt the pain they were feeling was unbearable and why should they have to suffer so much. My heart goes out to the rest of the family left behind but they felt they could not go on without their beloved son. May they all rest in eternal peace.

 

[Deluks]

...a guy who jumped off the top of the twin towers. His parents couldn't forgive him for commiting suicide. I'd say I shake the hand of someone who faced with certain death by fire, took their last decision into their own hands.

erm, you'd have to find it first.

 

[Shytalkz]

I can't agree with you Conny that it's bravery: they were thinking only of their own pain, not that which would be caused to everyone else connected with them as a consequence of their actions, when they made their decision to end their lives.

Regardless, it doesn't alter the fact that it is a huge tragedy for everyone around the periphery of that family unit.

Some people really do draw the short straws in life: the lad was paralysed from the neck down following a car accident, then caught meningitis last week and was discharged on Friday when doctors said there was no hope. He died that evening.

The parents set up a website after the crash to raise funds for specialist equipment needed for him and both gave up their jobs to provide him with full-time care.

And I don't supposed Gordon Brown has bothered to ring their families up to check on their well-being...

 

[conny]

I can't agree with you Conny that it's bravery: they were thinking only of their own pain,

Shy, fair comment and I respect your opinion mate, I don't expect everyone to think the way I do.
I don't think anyone can understand or imagine what must have been going through their minds when they made their decision unless they have been in a similar situation and maybe 'talked' out of carrying it through. With all due respect we may get to know from the press the background to the story and even the family circumstances, but does anyone really, I mean REALLY, know what goes on in their lives behind closed doors.
To outsiders I live a normal, happy family life, and I really am happy with my life at the moment. But few outsiders know that my wife and I haven't spoken to either side of our families for quite a number of years. God forbid we were ever to find ourselves in a situation like this but people would think, 'What about the family left behind?' Well the 'family' left behind hasn't wanted to know us for so long that I wouldn't give them a thought.
Selfish? To so people probably, to those that know the true circumstances understandable. I still think it was a brave decision unless it was taken when their mental torment was so great they felt they had no other reason to carry on.

And I don't supposed Gordon Brown has bothered to ring their families up to check on their well-being...

No chance, especially with the mother not being British or 'upper' class.

 

[WDIK]

Im sorry too, suicide is allways an option, but any sane rational person would prefer to live, regardless.
suicide is an act carried out by people who's state of mind is not of a stable nature.
I've contemlpated suicide after my late wife died of cancer after three months + 7 weeks after diagnosis following our marriage.
diagnosis date september 11 2001.

clearly I didnt, some days I feel like giving up and slipping away, due to my own condition.

brave? no I think its tempory insanity.

cowardice? the voice of reason.

 

[Johnmelad502]

clearly I didnt, some days I feel like giving up and slipping away, due to my own condition.

Sorry about the wife WDIK, and glad you did not succumb. A lot of people do consider suicide as a way of ending their problems.

Hope your health improves soon.

 

[EddieM]

...a guy who jumped off the top of the twin towers. His parents couldn't forgive him for commiting suicide. I'd say I shake the hand of someone who faced with certain death by fire, took their last decision into their own hands.

erm, you'd have to find it first.

They don't explode into a million bits when they hit the deck, TV around 120 - 140 MPH, messy though.

 

[EddieM]

Im sorry too, suicide is allways an option, but any sane rational person would prefer to live, regardless.
suicide is an act carried out by people who's state of mind is not of a stable nature.
I've contemlpated suicide after my late wife died of cancer after three months + 7 weeks after diagnosis following our marriage.
diagnosis date september 11 2001.

clearly I didnt, some days I feel like giving up and slipping away, due to my own condition.

brave? no I think its tempory insanity.

cowardice? the voice of reason.

Grief, terrible thing, well done for coming out the other side. Must have been tough.

 

[WDIK]

clearly I didnt, some days I feel like giving up and slipping away, due to my own condition.

Sorry about the wife WDIK, and glad you did not succumb. A lot of people do consider suicide as a way of ending their problems.

Hope your health improves soon.

thanks for the regards, it was 8yrs ago, ive remarried since, at the time was the lowest point of my whole life, daft but buying a bike saved me