safe zone between 2 sockets

[EFLImpudence]

If there is another wall between the old socket and the new (two right angles) you could still do it by fitting a socket on the middle wall (to show that there is a cable there).

Plus, don't forget you can go up at the corners (within 1500mm.) so you new sockets can be at a height you want.

He would then have a spur off a spur and it's 150mm, not 1500mm.

Yes, my mistake, sorry can't think of two things at once, would need FCU first.

150mm - typoo.

But, I'll let you off because I know what you mean!

Thanks.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

i have one last question and that is regarding the minor works cert, my question is can anybody d load one an fill it out ? or has it got to be a sparky,

Anyone can download the form, as for filling it out. Someone who has the correct calibrated test equipment, with the practical skill, experience and knowledge of what they are doing can, they do not have to be a registered electrician but be competent in what they are doing

also if some sparkys dont isue them for this kind of work as hardly anythings changing i may let my friend do it thanks

Some sparks don't purely out of ignorance and laziness!
But things will change during your alteration, you will be moving a cable (providing it is long enough after the alteration) During this process, I assume that you will disconnecting the cable from the points it is terminated and maybe sinking back boxes as well as burying cable.
So we now have situation where at least continuity of the conductors, insulation resistance and polarity should be confirmed before going live.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

It's a matter of interpretation whether you consider that it is minor works or not!

He says his sockets are same wall, same height and if they're RCD protected then it's simply a case of chasing in a length of cable.
At the very most and that's even stretching it there will only be a MWC completed.

Not sure what you are getting at?
Are you saying that the work does not need any type of certificate or that a MWC can only cover this type of work?
An EIC can also be completed to cover minor works. I wouldn't personally but there is nothing stopping you if you wanted.

 

[stevethespreader]

[quote="PrenticeBoyofDerry";p="2401269Be careful when cutting to bituman floors you can damage the DPM.
[/quote]so your familiar with the bituman floor? i had a prob a while back when i took the skirting off in one of my rooms they had screeded the bituman floor with the skirting in so when i took the skirting off i had a channel all the way round the room where the skirting was, of course the skirting was rotten where it was on the concrete and trapped between the wall and the screed, to get round that i painted bitumen paint in the channel filled it with sand and cement (waterproofed) and then painted some tanking slurry all the way round , then laid floor would you have done the same or would you have used a diff method?
i know its should be in another forum, but its tied into my electric question
cheers

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

On concrete floors that have been coated with bitumen, the bitumen creates a dpm, that is why your skirts were found to be rotten when removing, as they had come in contact with the concrete base that would not have been damp proof. Generally the old bitumen floors were/are about 25mm deep.
I may have used a different method to form the seal, but if you have coated with bitumen paint and used a waterproof admixture to a concrete pour/infill, should be capable of holding any damp at bay.

 

[stevethespreader]

I may have used a different method to form the seal,

just wondering what other method you may have used as thats all i could think of lol , btw getting back to the sockets could metal capping be used instead of plastic without earthing? if its rcd protected? cheer m8

 

[ponyagent]

if the sockets are rcd protected and on the same wall just chase them in using plastic or steel capping if you wish
as for a minor works cert i will email you a copy that you can print off and fill in , i have left my chip with a minor work cert file on it at a job that i wont be going to for a few days but when i get it i will mail it to you
only thing is if you issue a minor works cert is does require some test results so you will need a tester , personally i would just chase the cable in and not worry , do plug in a socket tester in though to check polarity.

can buy one for about £10 and they are handy for plasterers and similar trades

 

[stevethespreader]

i will mail it to you

ok thanks pony if you have time to do that i appreciate it, ill have them buried like you say and if i want to use the cert then ill have it just in case ta

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

You don't need to cap the cables, just make sure they are chased and clipped back so your trowel will not damage the cable sheath when repairing wall.
You will find the model forms here.
http://electrical.theiet.org/wiring-regulations/forms/index.cfm
click on BS 7671:2008 (2011) Amendment 1 forms in download section on the top right of window (page 9 is minor works)