Scudo (Expert/Dispatch) Rear Shoe Auto Adjuster Questions?

[carmanmemoranda]

Thanks again John. Will get under there with some open ended spanners to gauge the size of the flare nut wrench needed. I only have one F N wrench which might be imperial. Halfords do some nice long flare nut wrenches in their professional range. Not too worried about the bleed nipple, as cylinder will be binned. Will make sure I crack off the new ones before fitting.

Same with the cyl seals - not too worried about overheating them as will be binned. I realise the good sense you're saying in just doing the seals. Not sure where I would source the correct seals. Could poss rob them out of the new Ferodo cyls I have coming - if the seals are the same. But knowing my track record with rubber things, cv boots, etc - I would end up getting it wrong with fluid leaking all over my nice new shoes.

I'm sure it will go ok.

Just a comment about that.

Sort out the cylinders and any new brake pipes needed before you put the new shoes on

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Just a comment about that.

Sort out the cylinders and any new brake pipes needed before you put the new shoes on

Yes, thanks. New shoes won't be going anywhere near until I have non leaking cylinders installed. I've got a pre-assembled kit coming which includes adjusters, shoes, springs, cylinders. Saved messing around ordering things seperately. Cost £100 and went for Ferodo as some other brands were quite a lot more. Expect to double the van's value.

Will be back wanting details about how to replace the brake lines.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Or 6. Just scrap the thing

Plan B.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Yes, thanks. New shoes won't be going anywhere near until I have non leaking cylinders installed. I've got a pre-assembled kit coming which includes adjuster, shoes, spring, cylinders. Saved messing around ordering things seperately. Cost £100 and went for Ferodo as some other brands were quite a lot more.

Good move.

Will save a lot of aggro

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Very best of luck shifting the brake pipe connection mate........bloody tight they are as a rule.
John

Looks like my flare spanner does have the correct 11mm end. But it's quite short so tapping it with a hammer carefully so as not to twist the pipe would be the only option with that tool. I did tug it slightly, but it's on pretty well.

However, Laser do flare spanners that pivot. More importantly, they're 13" long, poss about double the length of the one I have. Maybe time to add yet another tool to the collection of tools that will only be used once (this is just like plumbing ). I think I may actually be able to get enough leverage on this one to turn the flare nut. Unfortunately no space to swing the breaker in the arch.

Still waiting for parts and the cylinder is now leaking like the Exxon Valdez just because it touched the outer cover. I was very gentle and it didn't appear to be leaking until I probed the cover - there was quite a bit under cover. The pipes are in perfect condition, no rust at all so I must believe that Fiat had no hand in their manufacture. Still awaiting parts. Flare nuts marinating in generous serving of Plus Gas.

Laser Tools 6753 Extra Long Flare Nut Wrench 11 x 13mm

Laser Tools 6753 Extra long, double ended flexible flare nut wrench provides greater access to hard to reach areas.

www.lasertools.co.uk

 

[Stivino]

the cylinder is now leaking like the Exxon Valdez

Clamp it off at the flexi hose.

 

[Old Salt]

I think I may actually be able to get enough leverage on this one to turn the flare nut. Unfortunately no space to swing the breaker in the arch.

Put a ring spanner over the jaw of your flare spanner to add leverage

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Don't force the pipe nut.

The last thing you want is the nut to turn but the pipe inside it being siezed just twists and therefore breaks. At garage level it's probably easier to just do that and make a new pipe, but I doubt you have a pipe flaring tool so will need to take the old 1, or details of it, to get 1 made.

Work the nut gently, back and forth, in small stages, plenty of penetrating oil between the pipe and the nut (not easy) and hopefully it will come undone. Worth taking extra time and care to do this if you want to avoid the problem of getting a new pipe made.

If a new pipe is needed, get 1 properly made, flared (check against the old flares, male or female, but likely male ) with new nuts. Do not use the compression fittings that some places now try and sell, they are not correct and WILL FAIL mot test