Shower Conundrum

[securespark]

Quick question:

We have one shower running off the boiler and one electric.

Have recently changed the system boiler for a Greenstar Combi.

I know electricity is vastly more expensive than gas. When refurbing my ensuite, should I keep the electric one, swap it for a mixer or fit a mixer and keep the electric one in case the boiler breaks down?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

If you ever use both at the same time, keep the electric. Unlikely the boiler is powerful enough to run 2 showers. Also, as you say, good to have the electric as backup for when the boiler breaks down. Use the shower from boiler in preference to the electric as it's cheaper.

 

[securespark]

Cheers!

 

[Londoner2]

I can never understand this, we have electric shower and use combi for hot water and heating only, my electric bill is only slightly higher than the gas over the winter despite the showers we have.

 

[Bodd]

Quick question:

We have one shower running off the boiler and one electric.

Have recently changed the system boiler for a Greenstar Combi.

I know electricity is vastly more expensive than gas. When refurbing my ensuite, should I keep the electric one, swap it for a mixer or fit a mixer and keep the electric one in case the boiler breaks down?

Keep the electric as this is now your back up hot water if ever your boiler cronks out.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I can never understand this, we have electric shower

Electricity is expensive, gas is cheaper for the equivalent appliance. Simples.

and use combi for hot water and heating only,

The shower takes hot water.

my electric bill is only slightly higher than the gas over the winter

Although that fact in itself is irrelvant and shows nothing specific, what it means is that while you are using gas to heat the whole house in the Winter, your electricity bill is still more than your gas bill.

despite the showers we have.

Without the electric shower (and using the combi), your electricity bill would reduce by more than your gas bill would increase.

 

[Londoner2]

Electricity is expensive, gas is cheaper for the equivalent appliance. Simples.


The shower takes hot water.


Although that fact in itself is irrelvant and shows nothing specific, what it means is that while you are using gas to heat the whole house in the Winter, your electricity bill is still more than your gas bill.


Without the electric shower (and using the combi), your electricity bill would reduce by more than your gas bill would increase.

Very much doubt it, all our cooking is electric, lighting, electric goods, 2kw electric heater on during winter, gch used sparingly, electric showers and is slightly more than the gas bill over winter. Gas is only used for hot water and heating. This has been the case over the past 10 years.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

if ever your boiler cronks out.

It's a combi.

It's a Wooshitter Botch.

There's no 'if' about it.

 

[Bodd]

It's a combi.

It's a Wooshitter Botch.

There's no 'if' about it.

They used to be good. they now make them too complicated and stuff too much in.

 

[Londoner2]

It's a combi.

It's a Wooshitter Botch.

There's no 'if' about it.

my wb is still going strong, was installed in 1997 according to paperwork, last service 2011, 1 diverter valve in 2008 and 1 prv after filling loop bypassed in 2015.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Very much doubt it, all our cooking is electric, lighting, electric goods, 2kw electric heater on during winter, gch used sparingly, electric showers and is slightly more than the gas bill over winter. Gas is only used for hot water and heating. This has been the case over the past 10 years.

Why do you doubt it when a kWh of electricity is 3.5 to 4 times more expensive than a kWh of gas? Heating water with electricity will always be much more expensive than heating it with gas.

 

[Deleted member 63160]

Fitted a new kitchen earlier this year. Dumped the gas cooker and fitted a double leccy fan oven and induction hob. Suppliers dropped my monthly bill by 30 dabs July. Same old Potty profile and cylinder. Seems to me gas cookers waste plenty energy.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

my wb is still going strong, was installed in 1997 according to paperwork, last service 2011, 1 diverter valve in 2008 and 1 prv after filling loop bypassed in 2015.

You're not comparing like with like. 20 years ago, WB built decent boilers. Now they build very over priced, over hyped boilers full of cheap plastic internals that often pinhole after a while. Which always rate them, because they obviously get a financial incentive to do so. Go on the plumbing section of this site and ask if you want real opinions from people who know.

 

[Deleted member 63160]

You're not comparing like with like. 20 years ago, WB built decent boilers. Now they build very over priced, over hyped boilers full of cheap plastic internals that often pinhole after a while. Which always rate them, because they obviously get a financial incentive to do so. Go on the plumbing section of this site and ask if you want real opinions from people who know.

+1

 

[securespark]

No, Which? are independent.

By the same token, according to your logic, why haven't Which? taken a large bung from manufacturers to keep schtum about dodgy tumble driers and fridges.

You can't have it both ways.