So, whos still in denial?

[Captain Nemesis]

about the same as you

Indeed.

But Im not the one trying to tell people who do have expertise that they are wrong, am I.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

I see Nicola is hiding behind buffoon Johnson over this new potential oil field in Scotland

sort of non committal not my decision stance



an independent Scotland will have to be financed by scotch whisky and short bread exports

There needs to be more practical, consumer friendly ways to go green.

For instance, you can buy a "green" laptop charger, that included in it's price is a carbon offset equal to the entire life and power consumption of the laptops energy.

The other and probably more depressing option is that we wait until it's far too late then all "pull together" in a last ditch technological effort and operate some kind of extremely hot nuclear and amazing material science furnace that could "burn" the atmospheric carbon dioxide into base components then compress the results and bury the resultant graphite sludge - all very quickly before it rapidly forms into the far worse carbon monoxide... or other such wild suggestions.

What about countries who s

economy is entirely based or built around oil and gas exports

like say Russia

are they going to see there country collapse economically

trillions will need to be given out in aid

or there will be trouble ahead

China are still building coal fired power stations

one a fortnight is coming on line

granted they built the first leccy cargo ship

they use it to deliver the coal to the coal fired power stations

How come us, here in UK, one of the least polluting countries in the industrial world, have to keep on paying more and more in environmental taxes.
Instead China, US and India every month keep on polluting as much as the whole of Europe for 50 years.
But the snowflakes love them and keep on buying their cheap rubbish which ends up in landfills after 2 days of use.
And they drive electric plastic boxes which will never see the light of their 10th birthday if not their 5th.
Then it's time for another plastic box fuelled by batteries which work by the magic of lithium and cobalt, mined by slaves in Africa, even children slaves.
Besides, what do they do with all the money we pay in environmental taxes (ULEZ for example)?
Do they pay Mother Nature and say: "Here, sort yourself out, go to the gym, get fit, wear a nice dress and makeup"?
Here comes my favourite punchline...


What a lot of b@llox!

Not doing a very good job if you can see her.

It doesn't matter what the UK does about it,
It doesn't matter what Europe does about it.

What we do pales into insignificance compared to china who are doing jack about it.
While we may stop using harmful fuels china just chucks more coal on the fire.

Thanks for saying what the snowflakes in love with China don't dare even thinking.
They're the ones living in denial.

All, each and everyone of those, irrelevant to the question which is, given this:

It is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean and land. Widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere and biosphere have occurred.

The scale of recent changes across the climate system as a whole and the present state of many aspects of the climate system are unprecedented over many centuries to many thousands of years.

Human-induced climate change is already affecting many weather and climate extremes in every region across the globe. Evidence of observed changes in extremes such as heatwaves, heavy precipitation, droughts,and tropical cyclones, and, in particular, their attribution to human influence, has strengthened since AR5.

who is still in denial about man-made climate change.

 

[transam]

Indeed.

But Im not the one trying to tell people who do have expertise that they are wrong, am I.

why not

Some so called expert on the radio tonight

the world has got till 2030 to get to net zero to stop a 1.5 degree rise in world temp there after it will be to late

nett zero in
8 years

dream on

 

[transam]

Indeed.

But Im not the one trying to tell people who do have expertise that they are wrong, am I.

1980s

margret thatcher warned of the world climate

only world leader to do so

dare say you voted for her ( not)

 

[Captain Nemesis]

The idea that mere humans can regulate the temperature of the planet as if it is some sort of central heating system is absurd.

What you say "regulate", what do you mean?

And what expertise do you have in climatology, atmospheric science, etc?

 

[Captain Nemesis]

So, I guess the answer to the thread is: Vinty.

And transam.

 

[Lazzy]

1980s

margret thatcher warned of the world climate

only world leader to do so

dare say you voted for her ( not)

Do you not feel a slight twinge of guilt firing those V8s up ?

 

[transam]

Experts

Blimey this country is drowning in experts

A lot I have heard spouting off there expertise could not find there own back sides in the dark with both hands and a torch

experts told every one years ago to buy a diesel car there cleaner

sugar in grub has nowt to do with obesity it’s the fat contact

every hospital bedside table had a bottle of lucizade on it

as it aided recovery it helped to create a nation of diabetics

dairy products are good for you
So eat plenty of butter

size does not matter

feed pigs on sewage pellets and feed cows on scrambled sheep’s brains end result BSE
Etc etc
experts Some who tout there rubbish would not know there back side from a pine apple

 

[transam]

Do you not feel a slight twinge of guilt firing those V8s up ?

nope none at all and all going well another one will be on stream next year with a monster 7.5 litre
V8

 

[Captain Nemesis]

why not

Why not?

Because Im not so stupid as to think that if I know almost nothing about a subject I have any credibility in telling people who know vastly more than me that they are wrong, thats why.

You want to tell climate science experts that they are wrong. Their claims to expertise can all be verified. What expertise do you have?

Some so called expert on the radio tonight

the world has got till 2030 to get to net zero to stop a 1.5 degree rise in world temp there after it will be to late

nett zero in
8 years

dream on

Which part(s) of his message do you refute?

And why?

What verifiable expertise do you have which would lend credence to your view?

 

[IT Minion]

Experts

Blimey this country is drowning in experts

A lot I have heard spouting off there expertise could not find there own back sides in the dark with both hands and a torch

experts told every one years ago to buy a diesel car there cleaner

sugar in grub has nowt to do with obesity it’s the fat contact

every hospital bedside table had a bottle of lucizade on it

as it aided recovery it helped to create a nation of diabetics

dairy products are good for you
So eat plenty of butter

size does not matter

feed pigs on sewage pellets and feed cows on scrambled sheep’s brains end result BSE
Etc etc
experts Some who tout there rubbish would not know there back side from a pine apple

Except the climate predictions of 40- 20 years ago have been pretty much spot on.

So why would you assume that they're wrong now?

 

[Lazzy]

nope none at all and all going well another one will be on stream next year with a monster 7.5 litre
V8

Well i hope you have fun with them whilst you can as i predict inside the next 5-10 years they will be banned

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Except the climate predictions of 40- 20 years ago have been pretty much spot on.

So why would you assume that they're wrong now?

Because either

a) he is provably the worlds biggest expert in climate sciences and knows and can prove that these thousands of other, lesser, scientists are all wrong,

or

b) he is someone who if I accurately described him would result in the post beig deleted and me being locked out of the thread.

 

[transam]

Except the climate predictions of 40- 20 years ago have been pretty much spot on.

So why would you assume that they're wrong now?

i am not a climate change denier
I just don’t buy into the doom and gloom scenario

plus there is nowt much any one can do about it any way

ban all flights
Ban all cruise ships

ban gas heating and cooking

ban all wood burners

ban barbecues

Ban all petrol lawn mowers

 

[transam]

Because either

a) he is provably the worlds biggest expert in climate sciences and knows and can prove that these thousands of other, lesser, scientists are all wrong,

or

b) he is someone who if I accurately described him would result in the post beig deleted and me being locked out of the thread.

Well yes BAS we know your opinion

Transam is a complete s**m bag

although I would question the word complete