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I wouldnt say the article shows the ringing endorsement indicated by the main part of that headline, for example:

But the study by BMG Research also indicates Labour still has work to do, with a larger proportion of people yet to believe the party is a “government in waiting”.

Many voters also do not think Mr Corbyn’s relative success at the ballot box has earned him the right to change Labour’s internal rules on leadership contests and candidate selection.
 
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carefully picked.

Did you see the question I was answering?

Perhaps the question that should be asked is why are labour policies and labour itself now seen as a viable choice? Do their policies now chime better with what people are worried about in health, education, economy etc ?

It also says

"Today’s poll tested key ideas in the party’s manifesto or mooted by Labour figures, including a ratio cap on executive pay, scrapping tuition fees, nationalising rail and utility companies and imposing a financial transaction tax.

Asked whether people would back “a pay ratio for top executives, so pay is capped relative to the pay received by the lowest-paid worker in the company”, 38 per cent said they “strongly” backed the plan and 31 per cent supported it “somewhat”. It is one of several areas where a strong Labour position has helped push the Government into making concessions, with Ms May announcing measures to tackle excessive corporate pay earlier this year – albeit ones that fell short of what had initially been mooted.

Plans to force companies to put a worker on boards giving them a greater say on executive pay rewards were ditched by the Prime Minister in the face of opposition from some cabinet ministers.

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Mr Corbyn’s call to scrap tuition fees altogether is also backed to some degree by a majority, 58 per cent. Sensing shifting public mood on the issue, ministers including Chancellor Philip Hammond have said the current system of fees needs reviewing.

Nationalising the railways also received majority support, with 55 per cent of the public saying they backed it either “strongly” or “somewhat”, while nationalising utilities “such as water and electricity” won the approval of 57 per cent in the weighted poll.

There was also broad support for a “Robin Hood tax”, of around 0.05 per cent on financial transactions “including those involving stocks, bonds, foreign currency and derivatives” – an idea Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell has previously signalled support for – which was backed to varying degrees by 45 per cent in the poll."
 
Moving on from last September's article, I saw this blogged a while ago.

"So here are some of the Jeremy Corbyn policies that the mainstream media really don't want to tell you about, so you can judge for yourself whether you like them or not.

Labour Party policies


Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts
It's astounding that this isn't the case already. How on earth could anyone even attempt to justify taxpayers' cash being paid to companies based in tax havens for the purpose of dodging tax?

£10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18

The UK is the only country in the developed world where workers' wages are declining in real terms, while the economy is actually growing. A £10 minimum wage would help to reverse this scenario, and it would also significantly reduce the cost of in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit (most of which goes to working families these days).

All rented accommodation to be fit for human habitation
Again, astounding that this isn't the case already, but in January 2016 the Tories (over 1/3 of whom are landlords)
deliberately voted down a Labour Party amendment to their housing bill to ensure that all rented accommodation is fit for human habitation.

Renationalise the railways
This is a very popular policy that is supported by
an overwhelming majority of the public. Do you support rail renationalisation too, or are you one of the minority who think that the current shambles is acceptable?

Renationalise the NHS
The Tory party have been carving up the English NHS and distributing the pieces to the private sector, Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to reverse this process. Are you one of the 84% of people who thinks the NHS should be run as a not for profit public service, or
the 7% who agree with the ongoing Tory privatisation agenda?

Free school meals

The policy of providing free school meals to all school children between the ages of 4 and 11 is based on evidence based research showing that universal free school meals lead to significantly improved grades. It will be paid for by ending the generous tax breaks (public subsidies) for the 7% of kids who go to private fee-paying schools.

Create a National Education Service
Jeremy Corbyn believes that education is a right, not a commodity. He wants to create an integrated National Education Service to ensure that education is freely available to anyone who needs it.

Scrap tuition fees
Thanks to the Tories (and their Lib-Dem enablers)
UK students now face the most expensive tuition fees in the industrialised world for study at public universities, meaning students typically leave university with £50,000 of debt, and two thirds of them will never pay off their student debts. Labour would end this lunacy by getting rid of student fees.

Restore NHS Bursaries
One of the first things Theresa My did when she came to power was to scrap NHS bursaries for nurses and other NHS workers. This removal of financial support for nurses has caused a huge 10,000 decline in the number of applicants to nursing courses. This collapse in nursing recruitment would be bad enough in its own right, but in combination with a record increase in the number of EU nurses quitting the NHS and a mind-boggling 92% fall in nursing recruitment from EU countries, the UK is clearly facing a massive NHS recruitment crisis. Labour would reverse this calamitous state of affairs by restoring NHS Bursaries for trainee nurses.

Increase the carers allowance
Labour are proposing to increase the Carers Allowance for the 1 million unpaid carers in the UK. This would be paid for by scrapping the Tories' Inheritance Tax cut for millionaires. Unpaid carers save the UK economy an estimated £132 million a year, and they're doing ever more work as a result of the £4.6 billion in Tory cuts to the social care budget.

Create a National Investment Bank
This is actually one of Jeremy Corbyn's best policies, but few people actually understand it. It's absolutely clear that allowing private banks to determine where money is invested ends up in huge speculative bubbles in housing and financial derivatives, while the real economy is starved of cash. A National Investment Bank would work by investing in things like infrastructure, services, businesses and regional development projects, and would end up becoming a kind of sovereign wealth fund for the UK.

End the public sector pay freeze
Under Tory rule
UK workers suffered the longest sustained decline in real wages since records began. The public sector pay freeze contributed massively to this. You'd have to be economically illiterate to imagine that repressing public sector wages with below inflation pay rises for year after year would not exert downwards pressure on private sector wages too. Ending the public sector pay freeze would actually boost the economy by putting more money in people's pockets, meaning an increase in aggregate demand.

End sweetheart tax deals between HMRC and massive corporations

David Cameron (the son of a tax-dodger) repeatedly lied through his teeth about how serious he was about confronting tax-dodging, whilst allowing HMRC to concoct sweetheart deals with corporations like Google, Vodafone and Starbucks. One of the main reasons the corporate press are so strongly opposed to Jeremy Corbyn is that they know that unlike David Cameron, he's serious when he talks about clamping down on tax-dodging.

Stop major corporations ripping off their suppliers

Major corporations are withholding an astounding £26 billion through late payment, which is responsible for an estimated 50,000 small businesses going bust every year. The scale of this problem is so massive that it should be a national scandal, and Jeremy Corbyn is absolutely right to align himself with small businesses to defend their interests.

(continues...
 
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Reverse the Tory corporation tax cuts
Since 2010 the Tories have cut the rate of corporation tax for major multinational corporations from 28% to just 17% (by 2020) meaning the UK has one of the lowest corporation tax rates in the developed world.
The global average is 27% and the G7 average is 32.3%. Theresa May has already threatened to lower the corporation tax even further to turn post-brexit Britiain into a tax haven economy, Corbyn is proposing to do the opposite and increase corporation tax rates so they're more in line with the rest of the developed world.

Defend Human Rights
Theresa May has repeatedly expressed her intention to tear up Winston Churchill's finest legacy, the European Convention on Human Rights. Labour would oppose this Tory attack on our human rights.

Zero Hours Contracts ban
Almost a million UK workers are now on exploitative Zero Hours Contracts.
Last year the New Zealand parliament voted to ban them, and Labour is proposing to do the same. Long-term employees and workers doing regular hours would be protected from Zero Hours Contract exploitation.

Housebuilding
Under the Tory government
the level of UK housebuilding has slumped to the lowest levels since the 1920s, even though demand for housing is extremely high. Labour are guaranteeing to invest in a programme of housebuilding, and committing to ensure that half of the new houses are social housing. This wouldn't just alleviate the housing crisis, it would also stimulate the economy by increasing aggregate demand.

Combat inequality
George Osborne's ideological austerity agenda resulted in
the longest sustained decline in workers' wages since records began and condemned an additional 400,000 children to growing up in poverty, meanwhile the tiny super-rich majority literally doubled their wealth. Labour is pledging to reduce the inequality gap and introduce progressive policies to reduce the gap between the incomes of the highest and lowest paid. There is plenty of evidence to show that the least unequal societies are more economically successful places where the people are happier.

Conclusion
So out of these 20 Labour Party policies, how many do you actually strongly disagree with?
 
Hardly, its part of the headline!

The headline actually says

"Voters overwhelmingly support Jeremy Corbyn's policy agenda, poll finds
But the survey also showed many voters are yet to see Labour as a government in waiting"
 
Labour government prepare for 'run on pound'

£250B spending plan

Thatll help to end austerity :)
 
Voters overwhelmingly support Jeremy Corbyn's policy agenda, poll finds
But the survey also showed many voters are yet to see Labour as a government in waiting"

As I said, its there in the headline
 
Notch repeatedly denies misrepresenting his sources' comments.
Yet here is a blatant and proven case of his misrepresentation. For example, notch refers to the main part of the headline, which is evidently not the case, as John says, and as shown by the actual source. The comment that notch claims to be the 'main headline' is clearly a subsequent comment, and actually appears no-where in the headline. as shown by the second image. and his referenced second supposed part of the headline is also nowhere in the headline, nor referred to in the headline, and appears half-way down the article, as shown by the third image.
I wouldnt say the article shows the ringing endorsement indicated by the main part of that headline, for example:
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-policies-support-voters-latest-a7949471.html

carefully picked.
Notch then squirms around his misrepresentation by a) altering John's quote of the original by swapping around the bold and larger text, and b) replacing his original claim with a new one. His original quote was from half-way down the page.

Hardly, its part of the headline!

The headline actually says
"Voters overwhelmingly support Jeremy Corbyn's policy agenda, poll finds
But the survey also showed many voters are yet to see Labour as a government in waiting"

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A clear and proven case of notch misrepresenting his sources' comments, despite his recent multiple denials of doing so.

Now, after recent suspicions, we can properly confirm Notch as an untrustworthy presenter of sources' comments. Someone who persistently misrepresents the original content, and then squirms and denies it when he is exposed.
 

Oh dear Wannabe is struggling with the English language.

Let me help with the term headline:
headline
ˈhɛdlʌɪn/
noun
  1. 1.
    a heading at the top of an article or page in a newspaper or magazine.
    "a front-page headline"

And now read the heading in question:

"Voters overwhelmingly support Jeremy Corbyn's policy agenda, poll finds
But the survey also showed many voters are yet to see Labour as a government in waiting"

What does the second part of the heading say:

But the survey also showed many voters are yet to see Labour as a government in waiting

Its part of the heading so can not be in any way shape or form be described as 'carefully picked'. I quoted a part of article, which says the same thing.

Now we are going to see Wannabe: misrepresent, squirm, backtrack, go round in circles, call everybody a liar, misrepresent the original content and keep denying it with page after page of ever increasing farcical comments until he explodes and has a breakdown. Exactly in the same fashion as he did with his computers are pcb's postings (which he is still in denial about and even stupidly quoted one his backtracking posts to try and cover his lies -when that didnt work, he had them all deleted).

Squirm away Himagin :)
 
Now we are going to see Wannabe:
I have proven my point without a shadow of doubt.
I do not need to re-prove it each time you deny the truth.
You are quickly becoming an expert at misrepresentation. You will continue to do so. I do need to re-prove anything each time you misrepresent the situation.
 
It says nothing about any bias or predisposition. However your question on policy was a diversion from the subject.

Do I think the politics of this country need change: yes. Mostly because the appalling treatment of those on benefits, in work poverty and the exponential rise in salaries of those at the top combined with the lack of taxation.

Do I think I think labour and its policies are now seen as a viable choice by the public? Partly, partly knee jerk reaction.

Corbyns popularity is, to a some degree a reaction to Theresa Mays terrible election campaign. The campaign was weak and didnt challenge Corbyn. Another election and his policies will be scrutinised.

Of course, if Cameron had not had the referendum, he would still be leader and Corbyn would have been unlikely to have gained anything like the level of support he now has. Ironic really since those on here that complain bitterly about the referendum outcome wouldnt have had Corbyn without it.

The policies of the current government (did you vote for and support?) have brought about this situation and increase in inequality which is no benefit to the economy or society.

How democratic you think Jeremy Hunt is in trying to establish ACO's and further privatisation of the NHS without full consultation and parliamentary approval?

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/stephen-hawking-take-jeremy-hunt-14028500
 
Did you not read my previous comment:

Why dont you stand in the middle of your garden shouting: 'Ive proved it, Ive proved it'. :):)

Oh no, dont do that, it would silly, theres no point shouting 'Ive proved it', when you havent.
 
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