Soil pipe collapse (Ed.)

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This is why I never install a joint on any part of the pipe which either enters the wall or under the floor.

Not always that easy, needs at least 2 joints on the bend at the bottom regardless, but in this case I suspect it might be older clayware pipes, that have no flexibility in the joints. Slight ground movement over the years has caused the joint to crack, and eventually completely fail.
 
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Not always that easy, needs at least 2 joints on the bend at the bottom regardless, but in this case I suspect it might be older clayware pipes, that have no flexibility in the joints. Slight ground movement over the years has caused the joint to crack, and eventually completely fail.
Yes there are two clay pipes going into the manhole, one from the gulley, bath and basin the other from the toilet then there's a square hole which I assume is to the soil stack to prevent gas coming into the building which makes no difference now if the pipes have broken! There is a leaking pipe as well next to the toilet so I've had to turn off the water at the mains. I don't know whether the leaking pipe caused the collapse or vice versa. Plumber coming tomorrow.
 

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